Marlin 795 for Appleseed LTR

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Gehrhard, really check out RFC. You can lighten the Marlin trigger to under 5 lbs without touching the hammer.

1. Clip a coil off the hammer spring, and file down the remaining edge.
2. Weaken the return spring.

First time I did this took me 10 minutes. Second time took about half that.
 
I have no problems with the trigger but I learned my long gun skills in The Corps and those old M16A2s don't exactly have two-stage match triggers. The polishing went very well and this week, off to the range to give it a whirl!

The 10/22 is a great rifle, I've owned many and miss a couple and will likely get another one somewhere down the line IF this Marlin doesn't grow on me. I like the mag release and the last shot bolt hold open very much. I am a huge Ruger fan but the ergonomics of the 10/22 mag release ($30 for the after market that should just be part of the build from the factory!) just bash the crap out of my thumbs and index fingers, no bolt hold open and it's much more expensive.
 
Well, DICK's Sporting Goods doesn't exchange or take returns on guns -- I think I knew that when I bought it actually, so, I have a $114 POS anchor. YMMV. But check the weight of the trigger pull before u buy. BET YOU WON'T ANYMORE.

No, I'm personally not going to modify interacting bearing surface angles and balance springs on a new gun, especially made as cheaply as this thing is. I was astounded how disposeable this contraption has become. Another Remington "improvement" like the decline of their 870 shotguns. The reliabilty, safety, and liability become an issue with my handiwork. And then there's the principle.

OK, I had a bad experience. :( If it helps one reader make a better-informed purchase we've all done well.

10/22. Volquartsen drop in hammer/spring.
 
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If spending $200 on a gun and then $45 on a trigger to get what you want is what you feel you need to do so be it. It's yours so you have to be happy with it. Just saying that 10/22 comes with the same 7 pound trigger so your same POS argument applies. With the accuracy being equal I would say a $100 gun that needs a new trigger is less of a POS than a $200 gun that needs a new trigger.
 
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"With the accuracy being equal I would say a $100 gun that needs a new trigger is less of a POS than a $200 gun that needs a new trigger."
+1 - well said
 
I'm not of the school of thought that assumes every gun needs a target trigger either.

I've got 2 Remington 700's and an M77MKII that I hunt with all with stock triggers. All will hold 1-1.5" groups for me at 100 yds. I've taken deer in excess of 350 yds with one of the 700's.

I've got an M77/22 with stock trigger that'll shoot .5" at 50yds. (farthest I've yet shot it).

I've got 3 10/22's that I compete in Ruger Rimfire Series matches with that all have stock triggers. For reference my last four matches have had two first place overall finishes and one second and one fifth overall. Not exactly like I'm plugging along in last place or anything.....

I've also got a Marlin 60 and two Marlin 75's that have stock triggers and they do just fine too........

Sorry, long-winded rant to say that if a rifle has a 5lb trigger it don't bother me much. As in all things, it's the Indian and not the arrow.........
 
Black;
I WANT(ed) to agree with you. But can't. The 10/22 is an uber-reliable, and superior overall, gun but the trigger is just too heavy. I can fix the well-designed and made trigger assembly with $33 delivered name-brand drop-in parts in 8 minutes with a screwdriver and something to push a pin (like a punch).

The 795? Called my master gunsmith today -- he wouldn't bother touching it.
 
Hey, Sgt. Any updates? Very interested in your impressions as I'm planning to take the Appleseed weekend course with the same rifle.

While doing some research, I found one remark that said the fore end was a little too flimsy to properly support the techniques using the sling.

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1506070

"The stock on a Marlin 795 is an inexpensive plastic with a forend that is awfully flexible. So to get practical accuracy from a Marlin the forend needs stiffened for sling use..." The poster epoxied a rod to stiffen. Another poster on another forum did not have good results from this approach.

There's an aftermarket stock that might remedy that, and make it look *evil*, to boot. <rubs hands together, cackles> Or I could go with a walnut stock for a Marlin 70. Kinda hate to bubba up a legitimate hardwood stock to add the sling, but then again it is a $125 dollar rifle. Until you had the $70 stock and $70 sights...
 
Last but not least I called Marlin/Remington. When I explained I had a trigger-pull weight problem they tried to head me off by saying they have a policy for the guns not to be < 3-1/2 lbs. I explained it has a 6.9 lb. average trigger pull -- they admitted "ohhh, oh no, no, that's really not good," appologized for this, and we are going to get it taken care of.

I might yet end up with a useable rifle if I am lucky, albeit never a target gun. Still wouldn't recommend buying one anymore.
 
I've got a few things doing and am not going to make it to the upcoming Appleseed but will head for one further down the line. I have the internals polished and smoothed and the mag slides in and out easy and the bolt carrier goes back and fore smoother, too.

Haven't made it to the range but am still confident this little rifle will serve me well, all comments from Master Gunsmiths and 10/22 loyalists aside. If it doesn't I'll report back but from those who have the rifles and like them, I've been getting positive reviews. Will update in the future as I can.
 
As in all things, it's the Indian and not the arrow.........
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Wow. Couldn't have said it better myself.....+1 for rantingredneck!

And that is what 95% of Appleseed shooting is.....the Indian. Sure, equipment problems crop up, but most of it is learning consistency with your rifle(s). Same cheek weld on the same spot on the stock, correct sling usage, sight alignment, etc. the same every time. And if you practice the positions long enough (I really like dry-firing at home), it becomes automatic when you get in standing, sitting or prone position.

Sgt....I'm sure you'll enjoy your Appleseed shoot...sounds like you're ready!
 
Does anyone else here own a trigger pull scale?

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=0004487307

My 795 was an average of 6.9 lbs. That's the bow, not the Indian. The Indian learned small-arms shooting ala Liberty in Army Reserve Small Arms Firing School, Highpower Rifle competition, and match clinics.

Yeah, you can practice doing your best with a POS. You could also get a compound bow made of plastic, rubber and sheet metal riveted together. I know: close your eyes. THAT's the Indian. The thread is about the bow. I reviewed the gun with the former Marine Sniper and custom gunstock maker who sold it me and he said the Feds force everyone to ship 6-7 lb. pull guns today. Marlin will fix mine.
 
I'll give it a try

On sale at Dicks SG for $124.99. With rebate thats 99.95 net. Deduct my $75 gift card and I'm into a new 795 for $25
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So you're going to ship it to Marlin, wait an unspecified amount of time for them to ship it back, not knowing for a fact that it's going to be better?

If it were me and I wasn't comfortable with modifying the running gear, I'd buy the custom trigger and be done with it. Less time, still less expensive than a 10/22, and doesn't involve shipping the rifle. In fact, I'd try the trigger job first, and if that didn't turn out, I'd order the custom trigger.

It sounds to me like you simply don't want to like the rifle, or you're expecting to get a match-grade rifle for the price of a plinker. Clue: It costs less than $150 because it doesn't have match-grade parts in it.
 
I expected a useful rifle, and accepted Marlin's appology for not selling one. Cost me $5 to send the trigger group in to the faster of the two warranty facilities they recommended. They warned me about sending it to REMINGTON as it would be there for weeks or months. Frankly, I don't really care when or even if they ever send something better back; if it gets lost in the mail. It was $114 and bought on a cheap whim. No, I'm not going to start playing with the cheapified assembly of this gun, or any, outta the box. The very notion, and willingness of people involved in the shooting sports to do that, is what pushed me to not just abandon it in place. Marlin needs to know what crap they sell, and pay to rectify it. Between the calls and warranty repairs they are not making any money. At least not on me. And Dick's will remind them too...

As I said, it woulda gone back if they'd have taken it. If it doesn't function reasonably for the purpose intended, besides being a breach of the sale, it'll make a nice tomato plant stake. Or I'll give it to some unsafe kid who doesn't know better to ensure they never adopt shooting as a frustrating hobby.

$25 for a 795? Ripoff. Take the gift certificate and buy a $63 box of 200 rounds of Remington "Club" 12 ga. -- a relative bargain!

By the way, a girlfriend's 795, which has to be at least 8 but is probably more like 10 or 15 years old, was fine. I even gave her a new mag for it for Valentines Day a few years ago to help keep her safe as I was leaving her. I'm such a romantic...
 
Appleseed has taken a backseat to unexpected out of state travel plans but I did get to the rang with my polished 795, a new GI canvas sling and new mags. The gun cycles very well and shoots as accurately as I need it to. Tech Sights are on order and in the near future, I will be Appleseed bound once again.

I have no problem with the little rifle that could!
 
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