Managed Recoil ammo for elk?

Well, if I had a 7mm-08, I would use that.

shotgun with slugs would be legal, but all I own is 12 gauge, and a pump at that. Having played that game back east, I would not subject someone else to it.

The point of the thread was reducing recoil with a 30-06 - not buying new guns.
 
sorry about that, with so many threads on about cartridges, I forgot that this one was restricted to a particular caliber.

I've loaded and fired numerous 30-06 loads ranging from 1,500 FPS 110 grain bullets all the way to 220 and various loads of cast in various sizes.

I believe that he will be able to deal with a 125 grain reduced load with no problem, based on my own experience with loads at that level, but I also have to admit that I've never been a small framed teenager. As a reloader, if I was creating such a load, I'd use a polymer tip bonded to initiate quick expansion, and still allow good weight retention. Such as the fusion.

Good luck with the hunt. My daughter is bipolar, and I understand how much a problem like attdef can bring to the table.
 
I am a little concerned about the bullet weight and construction in the reduced recoil loads. They might work ok for deer, but elk are much thicker. You will need something that will both penetrate and expand. Generally I hunt deer with 150 and elk with 180. Of course that is just me.

The best advice I have seen here and I must agree with is to have someone load up some reduced loads using a good 150 gr bullet. There are a few good bullet designs put out by barns, hornady, sierra, and a few others. My own preference would be the sierra pro hunter.

Whatever you decide, you sound like a reasonable hunter. I am sure your hunting trip will be a success whether you down and elk or not. Enjoy!!
 
That Federal Fusion reduced recoil is 170 grains at 2000 FPS. Zeroed at 100 shows down about 4 1/2 at 150 and down 10 at 200.

I can't say that I know which would be better 125 at 2500 or 170 at 2000. Might be a wash.
 
06 recoil managed ?

I learned not to flinch when i was 9,blind pig on a model 19 sw 357 mag,a year later 44 mag , then 308 win 12 ga buck hammer,150 gr muzzeloader loads,ect. practice practice practice if u cant shoot every day then every week, teach the boy how to be a man,learn him how to fit in to the mans world no sissy loads,big elk are dangerous animals,hit em hard ,and keep shooting till there down,me and my boy carry ruger old armys as backup guns,for our 50 cal smoke poles,also for all firearms season a b a r in 308 win and my son 16 carrys romainian sks for michigan deer n hogs although he can shoot the 308 equally well.:cool:my daughters 19,5 ft 4 and 117 lbs and 14, 5ft 1 96 lbs shoot all family guns and very well i might add, range time:cool:
 
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Thanks, that was very helpful and contributed greatly to answering the question:rolleyes:

Seriously, you did make my morning with

big elk are dangerous animals

That will keep a smile on my face the rest of the day:D
 
Why not a 30-06 with a muzzle break?? It would allow you to not make compromises with the ammunition and still give you the horsepower to properly dispatch an elk...
 
.300 - not a bad idea, except I don't have any long guns with brakes, and am not really inclined to mod my -06 for what may well be a 1-time thing.

If he gets drawn (there are only est. 10 tags for this hunt), and takes to it, I will work out a deal with him to buy his own rifle - by deal, I mean give him enough hours of labor to earn the money.

But that is a long way down the road from today.

Thanks to everyone who chimed in with reasoned responses to my original question.

To the others, please at least try to read the question. I never asked what rifle or caliber to buy, I never asked anyone to judge my parenting, I never asked how tough your kids are.

Mods can lock this one if you want - got all the useful info I think I need.
 
He's right you know. The elks club here has been the scene of many broken noses before they eliminated the open tap and poker night.
 
300 - not a bad idea, except I don't have any long guns with brakes, and am not really inclined to mod my -06 for what may well be a 1-time thing.

If he gets drawn (there are only est. 10 tags for this hunt), and takes to it, I will work out a deal with him to buy his own rifle - by deal, I mean give him enough hours of labor to earn the money.

Savage produces a version of their weather warrior SS/Syn rifles with a brake from the factory...
 
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