Man Sues Cops Over Legal Carry

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Your refusal to answer the question proves that you know that the answer is, "Yes!".

Since the answer is yes, it follows by the rules of logic that we can recognize that some behavior is stupid, inconsiderate, irresponsible, exercising poor judgement, etc, without being "anti-gun" or accepting that the Constitution and Bill Of Rights can be violated.

Sometimes, discretion is the better part of valor. You could also put "freedom" in place of valor.

Sometimes, discretion is the better part of freedom.

Some folks simply can not or will not recognize or understand that point. In that case, I might as well be talking to a wall. Why bother? My point is made and anyone open to understanding it, will.
 
Yes, of course.
But stupid doesn't change the fact that the Cops violated his rights and knew they were doing it at the time.
 
This is my classic thought experiment on style and being dumb.

In TX, you are legally dressed if you just cover your genitals and anus. You can carry a loaded long arm.

Thus, let's say you are outside with your kids playing on the lawn.

Down the street comes a man (you don't know this yet) who is wearing a flesh color thong (someone actually did this here and went biking around the rich neighborhood) and carrying a AR-15. Do you congratulate on his demonstration of freedom or do you get a tad concerned?

Let's say he does this at the Battle of Flowers parade (which did attract a rampage shooter - http://www.kens5.com/news/rememberi...-into-Battle-of-Flowers-crowds-128898288.html).

Might the police want to chat or might you flee?
 
I can't believe some of the things I am reading in here.

To suggest that carrying, after a tragic event, is insensitive is just ridiculous. Of anything it seems like it's all the more reason. Not just that, but people that carry every day, do so for a reason. They doesn't do it for fun and games and can just put the world's dangers on pause. He was within his full right and no matter what his motive he was in the right. If he did it just to agitate people, it doesn't matter.

The cops were 100‰ WRONG. no matter what way you twist it. He was within his full rights to react how he did. It doesn't matter if it was an innocent mistake by them. It doesn't matter if they didn't like his tone or if he was screaming bloody murder. He didn't do anything wrong. They are wrong and need to pay the price for it.

Reverse the situation and you will see why I take my stance. If A citizen is wrong, whether he didn't know the law or whether he was acting on Good faith and trying to save a life, it doesn't matter. The system still punishes him. You kill someone that's trying to kill you(or so you thimk) , and if your state doesn't have castle doctrine type laws, you go to jail. Even when a couple hundred miles away you wouldn't even be arrested.

Laws aren't about fair, smart or stupid. Break them and you suffer the consequences. There shouldn't be a double standard in this for citizens vs officers.

Keep in mind that whole I hold this stance firmly... I'm always polite and make nice with officers, and most the time it turns out well. Also, I don't personal carry and think it's a bit obnoxious for people to open carry and make others uncomfortable, when concealed carry is an option. However, My opinions on the subject, or what I would do, are nothing more than an opinion. Paying respect isn't part of the law. His rights should not depend on whether he sublicates and bows to authority. They are his rights. If they are still letting people vote out there, then stupid isn't a reason to lose rights either.

He didn't break the law, he was right, they were wrong, they pay the price. Simple.
 
Well said,timelinex , well said!

I think deep down some of this negativity comes from the hatred for Open Carry in general than it does for this particular situation.
 
This is going nowhere. When a thread reaches a group polarization point that leads to the debate just being repetitions of extremes - we are done.

Case in point, the last post stated:
Reverse the situation and you will see why I take my stance. If A citizen is wrong, whether he didn't know the law or whether he was acting on Good faith and trying to save a life, it doesn't matter. The system still punishes him. You kill someone that's trying to kill you(or so you thimk) , and if your state doesn't have castle doctrine type laws, you go to jail. Even when a couple hundred miles away you wouldn't even be arrested.

This is wrong. Self-defense laws have a long history before the current castle laws. No need to continue this.

Closed.
 
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