"Mademoiselle" hand gun?

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Atlan T. Rex

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I’m not a gun expert, so sorry if I did not use the “right” terms. :(

I’m looking for informations about a gun called “mademoiselle” (probable name). It’s a hand gun, but the place where you hold it (the "handle"?) looks like a miniature of a rifle, but surely it is not intended to put against the shoulder, but hold it in the hand.

It looks like a flint pistol, like the ones used by the British sea service on starting of 1800, but the handle (?) and the barrel reminds me a riffle used in old western movies, but much smaller.

I don’t have any pictures of it… Does anyone knows something that could be associated to this gun? Or maybe a place where can I find a strange guns picture gallery?

:confused:

Thanks a lot,

Atlan
 
Need a bit more information - -

- - to try to help.

Have you actually seen/held this firearm yourself? Do you have access to it? Any way you culd photograph it, prefereably with a digital camera, for ease in posting the photo(s?)

Is this a cartridge arm? If not, is it percussion or flintlock?

There's a wealth of talent on this board, and I'll bet someone will be able to help you.

Best,
Johnny
 
Hi Johnny.
Sorry if I don't know the right terms, my native language is portuguese; but as long as I could understand the terms, it's a percurssion gun.

I hold it just for some moments, after a cheerfull lady had pointed it to my face. After I calmed her down, I returned the gun. The gun still fires, although it appears to be an old-fashioned piece.
I think it was not a large-scale produce gun; the handle had some engravings (branches and leaves), everything very well done (didn't appear to be home-made).
This lady called the gun "mademoiselle", that's why I told it was a probable name.
I don't have access neither to the lady nor to the gun, so I can get an image. I'm looking for information just for the sake of curiosity.
Thanks for the attention of all you, and any clues would be welcome!
 
Very Interesting!

{b]Senhor Rex,[/b] I can see how you would like to know more about the particular gun.

I'm sorry, but I have been unable to locate any references to such a title or brand name for a firearm. Maybe it is a personal name, a term of affection, for the item.

I'll keep looking for information.

Best regards,
Johnny
 
Thanks Johnny!

Then again, maybe someone knows where to find a picture gallery for strange guns on the net, or maybe a printed catalog?

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Atlan
 
A really large printed catalog is the Standard Catalog of Firearms put out by Krause publishing. It has thousands of pictures of guns, but plan on spending a day looking for a specific picture! I also don't see any gun with a trade name or model name of Mademoiselle in any of my books.
 
Atlan, FYI---

Member johnwill is a very active participant on this forum, with a very interesting collection of unusual handguns, mostly of the smaller type. If you do a SEARCH by his name in this forum, you'll find an extensive list of beautiful firearm photographs he has posted. It was almost a daily practice for a time. I wish he would post some more. Hint, HINT.

Best regards,
Johnny

PS--Now that I've suggested the Search, I discover that the Search function is down for repairs. I trust it will be reinstated soon.
JPG
 
Madam

Alan Rex:
There are two photos, one attached here and another in another post directly next to this one. Do they look similar to what you are seeking?

Sorry don't have much information on them.

HJN
 
Thanks a lot! :D
The first picture do reminds me of the gun, but the barrel is not like that. I tried to create a "frankestein" using pictures from 3 guns to give you at least one clue about it.
The victorian leaves below the image is to give an idea about how the engravings on the handle look like, although they are more sophisticated, with more leaves.
 

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This picture is for Johnny Guest, maybe he'll find what he's looking for in here. :) This is a group picture that has about 90% of my collection in it. It's posted as a link, since some folks won't want to download a picture of this size.

Collection Group Photo
 
If the name was not actually on the gun, I suspect the woman was just using a pet name for her "pistola", somewhat as people used to call a gun "Old Betsy". Maybe she considered the gun as something of a chaperon.

Jim
 
Yes, I'm almost sure of this now, since no one had never heard about a gun with this name.
And, let's be clear, it's kind of strange a name for a gun... I just consider the hipothesys because the gun was strange itself...
 
It looks like a flint pistol, like the ones used by the British sea service on starting of 1800, but the handle (?) and the barrel reminds me a riffle used in old western movies, but much smaller.
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Can't put a picture up but maby someone else has this book....Antique Guns, Hank Bowman, 1953....pg 57.

Captioned picture but no descriptive text in the book other than caption. Gun is flint, rifle like stock except short, barrel bout 7-8" with belled muzzle.

Caption....
Plainly marked "HARPERS FERRY 1814" This weapon presents a mystery to students of antique guns. Discovered in a Venezuelan collection. It is 20 3/4 inches long and was probably carried with the butt in the crook of a man's arm. No records exist on this gun.

Sam
 
:eek:
Oh my...

Does anyone has this book? It'll be very difficult to me to find it here in Brasil (we write it with "S" here), but I think that's the gun. Most problably, a newer reproduction of it, since it didn't appear to be very old.

Thanks a lot for everyone!
 
johnwill - - -

Don't we ALL need a scanner, especially in this forum, where so many unusual guns are discussed?;)
Johnny
 
I actually don't use my scanner much since I've gone to digital cameras, though it's still useful for those facts from books...
 
John, I got it scanned but can't get the load down low enough to post. Will send to you, maby you can trim off the excess fat.

Sam
 
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