Lying, Stolen Valor and Illegal Weapons Transfers - From the NRA

And, having just read and posted in this thread, I grabbed a local newspaper so I'd have a crossword puzzle to do while eating lunch today and there as an AP (Associated Press, not Armor Piercing) story about this very issue and the circuit court split.
 
"Look I am not throwing it all on them."

Throwing what on them? You haven't made a case for anything. The NRA acted responsibly and according to the law. I think you're attempting to make something out of absolutely zero.

A few years ago I donated money to a gun club in PA for 2 target rifles. You sound as if you expected me to drive up there and make sure the adults were properly supervising the high school students on the team who were using the rifles. That's nuts.

John
 
The NRA did exercise good judgement.

I don't think it's incumbent on a charitable giver to delve into every aspect of a beneficiary organization. There would be no end to it...

And just my personal opinion, but, if the NRA had said "we'll donate some rifles for the hunt, but we want to audit all your processes, look at your by-laws, see what checks and balances you have, and we want to have our auditor go over your books." I'd say, "thanks but you can keep your rifles."

Before this incident there was nothing to indicate that the Hunt for Heroes project had any issues. I'm sure they will amend their selection process, who knows - maybe people are going to have to show a DD214 from now on... but just looking at the organization, they seem like some people who are trying to do something worthwhile. I can't see where the NRA should have second-guessed them.
 
Here's the passage that makes me think that NRA simply supplied the rifle and the organization running the hunt actually gave it to this clown:

"Truitt was given a rifle during the hunting trip. A sheriff's office spokesman said they have learned the rifle has been returned to the National Rifle Association. A group affiliated with the NRA helps with the Hunt for Heroes project."

Note that it says DURING the hunting trip. Also note the last sentence. That makes it sound as if one of the Friends of the NRA groups or perhaps the state rifle association is the actual group that supplied the rifle, not the NRA.
 
Seems like Whitnack was as upset about Truitt putting seven rounds in an Elk's head as he was about the made-up stories of his military record.

When you listen to his account of it, you can tell he was steamed about that...

Brings up another issue maybe... just because someone was in the military doesn't mean they know hunting etiquette. I'm sure I could find a post titled "M4 for Elk ?"

Besides checking DD214s, these organizations who are trying to do nice things for vets might start doing a criminal background check and also see if the candidate has taken a hunter safety course?
 
If this thread turns into "best .45 ACP for elk," I'm closing it
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Doesn't matter what you use, it just takes a whole clip. :(

A few years ago I donated money to a gun club in PA for 2 target rifles. You sound as if you expected me to drive up there and make sure the adults were properly supervising the high school students on the team who were using the rifles. That's nuts.
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I am not so sure it is nuts. I very rarely lend a gun to someone but when I do I either take extraordinary measures to ensure it will be used safely or it is someone I already know in this regard and trust implicitly.

Let us not forget that Amy Bishop went on her spree with a borrowed gun. By all accounts she was screwy for years leading up to the episode.
 
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