Lubricant Tests

Very true, I am speaking only of how the product looks and reacts when poured. Totally non-scientific, of course, but I am only looking for drastic differences. Mobil 1 for instance did not show any changes from 95 degrees to -5 degrees, as far as I could tell by sight and touch. I'm sure in the lab there was a big change on a molecular level.

Overall, I don't think viscosity is a good thing to focus on when it comes to gun lubes. Big difference between Rem Oil and wheel bearing grease, but both will work fine as gun lubes under normal temperatures, say 75 degrees F, as long as they are applied correctly. Extreme cold or extreme heat brings out the differences, but if you choose the right product for the job it will not be of concern.

We see this all the time on the forums when some knowledgable guys come out and say "use xxx grease on your AR" and then some other knowledgable guys come out and say "no, use xxx oil". Who's right? The bottom line of course is that both will work if applied correctly, and you take your AO into account.

Guys that favor grease may do so because they experienced failures from using a lousy oil, and guys that favor oil may do so because they may have seen someone apply too much grease which caused a problem, or they used an automotive type grease when it was 10 below outside and the gun wouldn't run at all. We are all victims of our experiences, and in some ways this is good, sometimes it is not.

When speaking of grease it must be pointed out there are two notable exceptions to the norm - Tetra Gun and Milcomm TW-25B. Both of these products have a much wider temperature range than the automotive type greases available. If I had the "damn it all, I'm using a grease no matter what" mindset, I would be using TW-25B.

The best thing to do in my opinion is use a modern (high tech if you will) product of medium viscosity that will work in a wide temperature range on all weapons systems - from miniguns and cannons to pistols and rifles - and this is where I start thinking of Weapon Shield CLP. :D

Thanks,

Clay
 
In the FWIW column, I've been using military grease MIL-G-46003 and LSA Medium Weapons oil MIL-L-46000A for years. I also don't have subzero temps to contend with, just incredible heat. I have no corrosion or rust on the parts that see these lubes and no wear either that is detectable like on a slide of a 1911- not even bright marks. For the outside finish I use a light coat of Havoline 5w-20. I haven't had rust on any weapon since using it. A qt of each of the above will set you back about 20 bucks total...........for the rest of your life. You won't ever need to buy any more. Apparently it doesn't go bad either. The grease I bought in 1965 and the weapons oil in 1970. Still have at least 75% in the containers.
 
Please educate this old maybe newbie gun guy . . .

Hey guys,

I got the sample of Weapon Shield, have used it and think its great!! All these years I've been using Hoppe's gun oil, Outers gun oil, Rem Oil and now I'm seeing these posts talking about using motor oil. I assume the motor oil is used on the outside of the gun. Barrel? Is this used as a rust protectant after each cleaning or for long-term storage? On blued guns only? Is it okay to use on guns with polymer frames - not on the polymer I imagine but if it gets on the polymer could it harm it? Guess I've missed something along these 30 odd years of gun use.
 
While "George" is probably a stand-up guy, I must say that having the rep for one (and only one) product participating in, and constantly shilling his product in the midst of this "test" really casts a shadow of doubt over the objectivity of the testing.

If his product is truly the best, the testing will bear this out. The testimonials from his customers will do likewise. The appropriate thing (for him) to do would be to sit back and watch.

I have no vested interest in any of the products being tested. This is my observation only. But I will have a hard time accepting the results as objective, as at this point it seems as if the outcome is a foregone conclusion.
 
Survivor - several folks use synthetic motor oil on firearms for lubrication. It works well and is cheap. Whether or not it is superior to products specifically designed for guns would be mainly up to you to try it on your own weapons under your circumstances and see if you like it. I prefer to use CLP's for the most part, but if you are looking for a good oil that is cheap, Mobil 1 0W-40 might be worth a try. As to whether or not it is safe on various surfaces, I have no idea (yet), and Mobil doesn't know either, since they don't recommend its use on firearms to begin with. :D

Orionengnr - Hmmm. I hope you are not referring to any of my posts or tests. If you reread everything carefully you will see many products listed in this thread, and in most of the threads that George has posted in in the past. There are lots of good products out there to use, and I have recommended several in this thread alone, along with providing links and info - that's the whole point of this thread BTW. I have no bias at all, except to good products, and the good companies that make them. I cannot help that this includes George Fennell and that he, as a free person thankfully chooses to post here and elsewhere to help others. George does not have to "shill" anything - his products sell themselves, through the many testemonials already posted on the web in reference to Weapon Shield alone.

I for one wished George would participate more, but he feels it lends a bad light on himself and others because of people like yourself that think that he is a con or that we are somehow paid off. The Weapon Shield I have for T&E? - I paid for it. :)

Best regards,

Clay
 
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"George does not have to "shill" anything - his products sell themselves"

That's for sure I received a free sample of Weapon Shield 2 weeks ago and after trying it on my new AR upper I ordered a 16 ounce bottle immediately. This product seems very good I prefer it over my old standby Break Free CLP because it cleans better and lubes as well or better. George will have me for a long term customer for sure this stuff seems to be all he says it is and more.
 
Guys I apologize for being so busy lately, and I hope to be back on track by next week.

Forgot to mention - compatability tests are next. I will trying to determine if any of the products I have will harm or degrade plastics, composites, wood, or finishes. I will be using real firearms as well as household items. If anyone has any suggestions please let me know.

All product reps are welcome to participate. Free samples are not required, but they are appreciated by all. :D

Thanks,

Clay
 
I use Gun Butter on all of mine. Didn't see that one listed anywhere. gunbutter.com It doesn't take much and makes everything easy to clean.
 
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WS on blued finish

Clayton,

My CCW is a Makarov. I usually wipe it down with a silicon cloth after carry before storing it. When I holster and carry it, usually after about an hour when I pull it out the finish looks blotchy. The last time that I used Weapon Shield on it I used it on the outside of it as well. Wiped it back off well and stored it. Four days later I holstered it (in the same leather holster) and carried it. After wearing it for six hours I pulled it out and it still looked spotless. Apparently, I no longer need the silicon cloths. It appears Weapon Shield does a much better job of protecting the finish as well.
 
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