Low Cost Target Savage FV 308 Varmint

Your 110 may well be, essentially, the same rifle as my old 110. 26" heavy barrel, top bolt release, wide action screw spacing (compared to the current short actions), long action, etc.

Except, you have the Accutrigger - which I agree, are very nice.

In any event, it sounds as if you have the same (or very similar) inadequate stock as the one that came on my 110. Actually, mine shot quite well, once I added a pad at the tip of the forend, to ensure that the stock would not touch the barrel except at that one location. But, if you want a replacement stock, consider a Boyds Pro Varminter. Recently switched to that stock on my 110. They do a standard inlet for the long action 110, with heavy barrel. The fit was so good, without modification, that I almost skipped glass-bedding it. Almost.

I can't say that my 110 shoots better (than with the original plastic stock) now, but it certainly FEELS and handles better. The weight of the laminated stock shifts the centre of balance of the rifle rearward, so it balances much better (feels far less "nose heavy"). I have retained the original trigger, for now, as it feels much better with the more vertical grip of the new stock. For $163, the Boyds stock was worth every penny, in my estimation.

I just had the 110 out yesterday. Shot 1" groups (+/-) at 200 yards with it, at will. Stacked shots, one on top of the other, on steel targets, at both 200 and 300 yards. Easy to shoot well. Tremendous fun.

That old 110 makes me look GOOD (it's the RIFLE, not me).
 
If I am tracking this right its a Model 12 short action (or maybe medium) vs the 110 long action.

I looked at the 10T after it was mentioned and the lit on Cabellas site says that its on a 110 action. I did not know about that one either, might have gone for it as I would get me going towards the 30-06 HB I want.

If I have it right usually the Savage numbers are two number short or medium and 3 numbers is the long.

the 10T is a Cabellas (or maybe others but not Savage direct) only so maybe that goes out the door or its a special put together though not sure why they would put a long action on it when the caliber only goes up to 308 (maybe they use it for the 300 and 338, too bad they skip the HB 30-06 which would be a treat.

Still its the 308 HB is a very good rifle for a more than reasonable price. I'll adjust to the caliber. Long term if I shoot it out I will see if I can re-chamber it for 30-06. The magazine won't work but as I single load I think you can just feed one in and it might work fine, down the road though.

If you really wanted a 30-06 HB then get the 12T at Cabellss, shoot the barrel out and then replace it with 30-06 or have it re-chambered for 30-06.
 
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OK, now I am confused. If you have a model 12.....in 308.....then it is either a "12BVSS" , or a "12 Varmint Low Profile". Those are the only two model 12 Savages available in 308, currently. Funny thing, BOTH of those models come standard with a laminated wood stock - not plastic.

So, you may have a new/ old stock rifle, a used rifle......or something other than a model 12. Perhaps ?

IF you do have a SHORT action, 30-06 may well not fit. The magazine box and/or ejection port may not be long enough. I think that all of the 12's are short action.

The 10T is NOT a 110 - not exactly, anyway. Based on the 110, but not exactly the same. All of the 110's were long action, even for shorter cartridges like the 308. (My 308 model 110 is a long action, for example.) When they began producing short actions, they came up with the two-digit numbering system.
 
The bigger sporting goods stores sell "exclusive" rifles from Savage that have different stocks/barrels/and other options that will not be listed on the Savage website.
I bought my Savage 10FCP 308 from Cabelas several years ago. It was an exclusive to Cabelas,and it came with a Choate tactical stock instead of the HS Precision tactical stock that was cataloged on the Savage site.

Most gun mfg's do these "exclusive" gun packages for the big box stores,and also firearms wholesalers like Davidsons Gallery of Guns.
 
OK, now I am confused. If you have a model 12.....in 308.....then it is either a "12BVSS" , or a "12 Varmint Low Profile". Those are the only two model 12 Savages available in 308, currently. Funny thing, BOTH of those models come standard with a laminated wood stock - not plastic.

So, you may have a new/ old stock rifle, a used rifle......or something other than a model 12. Perhaps ?

IF you do have a SHORT action, 30-06 may well not fit. The magazine box and/or ejection port may not be long enough. I think that all of the 12's are short action.

The 10T is NOT a 110 - not exactly, anyway. Based on the 110, but not exactly the same. All of the 110's were long action, even for shorter cartridges like the 308. (My 308 model 110 is a long action, for example.) When they began producing short actions, they came up with the two-digit numbering system.
As my surveying boss used to say (many careers ago) get confused and stay that way!

The gun as noted above is a Cabellas Special make, so not the same features as the Savage sight (and if I had known about Cabellas special guns before...... very likely would have gotten the Cabella 10T

So mine is a Model 12 with a cheap stock and accu trigger. Good enough, fantastic prices for a varmint HB gun.

I gather Dicks has some of those as well though I don't know if they are the same ones.

10T because I could have shot it out and then re-chambered for the 30-06 I wanted.

Lot of interesting in HB 30-06, all you have to do is chamber the 10T in it and you are good to go, even the hole stays the same (if you have a 308)

ahh well.
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Savage used to only make a long action receiver,hence the 110-111-112-114-116 models. All calibers used a long action receiver-long and short action calibers.
That changed in the 1990's when they started making the short action receivers and came out with model's 10-11-12-14-16.
The Target models and Short Magnum's also use a Large shank barrel,everything else uses a Small shank barrel.
The alphabet usage behind the model number just describes the type of stock,right or left hand action,blind or detachable magazine,and metal finish of the gun. It can be confusing if you don't know what they all mean.
 
Gets confusing even if you DO know what the letter codes mean. IMHO, Savage needs to work on that. Still my favorite rifle company, though.
 
Despite what Cabellas description says the 10T does not look to be a long action, i.e. its still a short action or looks to be.

I looked at one today, it also does not have the barrel nut so you could not upgrade that rifle (or at least as easily as a barrel nut version)

Don't get me wrong, the 10T seems like a nice rifle, 24 inch barrel so handier than the 12FV, nicer stock as noted.
 
Actually the 10T DOES have a barrel nut. The barrel nut is simply of the "smooth", rather than serrated variety, which is the type Savage uses on their current production rifles (or, at least, some of them).

I have no explanation as to the change to the smooth nut. Frankly, I can't quite understand how one would remove such a barrel nut - the original Savage barrel nut design had the serrations corresponding to a special barrel wrench. It would seem that the smooth one would be very tough to remove.

The 10T model is just a modern version of the 110. Probably a short action, I would guess, perhaps with the bottom bolt release, accutrigger, accustock ?, etc. But, under the skin, so to speak, it's pure 110. Very much like my old 110 FP, which was the "tactical" or police model of the 110. Now, they call it model "10 - something". Basically, same rifle.
 
Thanks.

I am not sure its a 110 in the true sense that a 110 should be a long action not the short action.

Nice gun, good stock, acutrigger , just not the item to add a HB 30-06 as I had some thoughts of.

Hard to tell why Cabellas got that setup but its a OEM special only unto them.
 
The vaunted Varget is not one of the better ones. I tried hopping it up to close to maximum the second times and still nothing all that good. TAC does not shoot all that great either

IMR 4895 did very good as did Accurate 4064.
You might try some IMR-4064 along with 175 or 178 gr bullets. My son's 12FV seems to prefer the 175 gr bullets, both the Sierra HPBTMK and the Nosler Custom Competition handloaded and in factory ammo. (SSA and Federal GMM)
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I'm in the same boat as the original post. I too am fairly inexperienced in the rifle world. City Boy here with lots of handgun experience but little rifle. I too want a rifle and like the .308 because it seems like a pretty versatile round for target, hunting, easy to find ammo and many different reload varieties. I too like Savage's reputation of being a quality, low cost good shooter out of the box. I will mostly be using the rifle to shoot targets and cans in the woods but like the idea that it can also become a hunting rifle if I choose to go that way.

I have been looking at the Savage Axis II .308 myself. Bass Pro has them for $409 with a $50 mail in rebate and includes a scope. How does this rifle compare with the FV .308 and the others mentioned?
 
They are really two different categories. I don't know a whole lot about Axis and how well they hold on with more than a shot or two.

Axis is oriented toward lighter hunting guns if you will, lower weight and handier which is what you want if you are carrying a rifle any distance

The 308 FV has not scope with it, long barrel at 26 inches and heavy.

Good for bench rest, good for varmint shooting as you are in one location but heavy to pack much and not very handy.

One of those you can't have it all so you have to make your choice as to whats most important.

The 10T is a bit of a compromise, still heavy, shorter barrel but its 10 lbs so not light (and that's without a scope for both 308 FV and the 10T)
 
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