Looking to buy an AR
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S&W M&P Sport $599.99
Is the only way to go if quality, reliability and warranty mean anything to you.
http://grabagun.com/s-w-m-p15-spt-556nato-16-30rd-fld.html
Is the only way to go if quality, reliability and warranty mean anything to you.
http://grabagun.com/s-w-m-p15-spt-556nato-16-30rd-fld.html
Lots of discussion about what might be nice, nothing about what's being shot at, or how far.
Guns are to shoot. Very few people buy hammers to just look at. Yes, some collect tools, like old Stanley planes, but based on the idea they still have to function. If broken, they're junk.
Since the gun has to function, then what is the target? Paper, bunnies, steel plates, remotely controlled, deer or hogs? What distances?
Get what target at what range nailed down in real terms, with numbers, then work out what type of AR suits that best. Few people want a mediocre gun to do the job, it won't help them excel.
So far, most of the links and pics are about M4geries, and what they do best is sell to shooters who don't know what they want to shoot at. They just look cool.
Be more precise, you should choose the appropriate caliber for the target, the barrel length best suited, which then fixes what gas length, not vice versa. That optimizes the best gas, not which gets by. Then optic, furniture, and last trigger. Don't get it backwards, a good barrel, ammo, and optic are most of what it takes to be accurate. A railed fore end or trigger won't make a 2MOA milspec shooter suddenly start grouping .5" at 100 yards. They certainly will add $500 to a $599 gun, but it's not worth $1099. The foundation isn't there.
Guns are to shoot. Very few people buy hammers to just look at. Yes, some collect tools, like old Stanley planes, but based on the idea they still have to function. If broken, they're junk.
Since the gun has to function, then what is the target? Paper, bunnies, steel plates, remotely controlled, deer or hogs? What distances?
Get what target at what range nailed down in real terms, with numbers, then work out what type of AR suits that best. Few people want a mediocre gun to do the job, it won't help them excel.
So far, most of the links and pics are about M4geries, and what they do best is sell to shooters who don't know what they want to shoot at. They just look cool.
Be more precise, you should choose the appropriate caliber for the target, the barrel length best suited, which then fixes what gas length, not vice versa. That optimizes the best gas, not which gets by. Then optic, furniture, and last trigger. Don't get it backwards, a good barrel, ammo, and optic are most of what it takes to be accurate. A railed fore end or trigger won't make a 2MOA milspec shooter suddenly start grouping .5" at 100 yards. They certainly will add $500 to a $599 gun, but it's not worth $1099. The foundation isn't there.
I appreciate the advice and I thought I covered it in the original post, but to clear things up: I plan to use this gun purely as a range toy for under 200yds on targets varying from soda cans to human torso size paper targets. Purely for recreational, fun shooting with a red dot or low power optic. More than a little on iron sights if so equipped as well, just to familiarize myself more with the ghost ring style sight system. Yes, an m4gery is basically what I'm looking for.
I figure if I like the platform I can then build two more dedicated chassis guns for specific uses. A 20" heavy barrel varmint in 223 or 308 for extended distance groundhogs and a 6.8 combat rifle with rails, red dot magnifier, etc. If, on the other hand, I don't love the AR platform I will most likely liquidate this first AR in funding either an M1A or tactical bolt gun for distance shooting. I am really just wanting to get my feet wet on an AR, but I don't have any shooting buddies that have them or ranges that rent guns within driving distance so I gotta buy my own. Why I have a beretta, a sig, and a P345 just laying in the case. Wanted to try em out, just wasn't impressed enuff to stray from the 1911s.
I figure if I like the platform I can then build two more dedicated chassis guns for specific uses. A 20" heavy barrel varmint in 223 or 308 for extended distance groundhogs and a 6.8 combat rifle with rails, red dot magnifier, etc. If, on the other hand, I don't love the AR platform I will most likely liquidate this first AR in funding either an M1A or tactical bolt gun for distance shooting. I am really just wanting to get my feet wet on an AR, but I don't have any shooting buddies that have them or ranges that rent guns within driving distance so I gotta buy my own. Why I have a beretta, a sig, and a P345 just laying in the case. Wanted to try em out, just wasn't impressed enuff to stray from the 1911s.
Mrgunsngear
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http://palmettostatearmory.com/8925.php
^^^as an earlier poster said, for a mid-length AR in your budget, this is a very good one. I've shot it a good bit (my range buddy has it) and it's always been accurate and reliable. He and I slapped a low profile gas port and free float YHM rifle length rail on it and it still came in under $900 and will do anything a higher end AR will do. It looks nasty to boot
^^^as an earlier poster said, for a mid-length AR in your budget, this is a very good one. I've shot it a good bit (my range buddy has it) and it's always been accurate and reliable. He and I slapped a low profile gas port and free float YHM rifle length rail on it and it still came in under $900 and will do anything a higher end AR will do. It looks nasty to boot
and here's where i pick my nitts. I'd considered that rifle and was interested until I saw it has a 14.7" barrel and pinned flash hider. I would like the full length 16" barrel, so I can change/add muzzle devices as I desire. I know it's stupid, but just how I feel about it.
On a side not, I saw a Troy industries battle rifle kit on another site with a 7.5 barrel and it was very impressive. But, being so short I'm assuming this is an NFA gun that requires the SBR paperwork and the tax stamp (still looks like my idea of a really cool AR and it's available in 6.8SPC...
)?
On a side not, I saw a Troy industries battle rifle kit on another site with a 7.5 barrel and it was very impressive. But, being so short I'm assuming this is an NFA gun that requires the SBR paperwork and the tax stamp (still looks like my idea of a really cool AR and it's available in 6.8SPC...
)?