looking to buy 38 special or +p

Just wanting to get some feedback.
Budget is tight and looking to get either a EAA windicator for $270 or a Rossi for $317
EAA is NOT +P. I know I could go the extra $50 for a 357 model but not sure if I'm wanting to spend the extra.
is it worth paying the extra $40 for the Rossi over the EAA ?
 
Well, the extra $50 would put the price closer to the Rossi, and give you the added benefit of magnum capability. That said, every Windicator I've handled has felt sub par. From heavy, gritty triggers, to hard to work cylinder releases and poor finishes, they all fell short in the refined department.

The few Rossi's I've handled have all felt more refined then any Windicator.

All that said, I'm not for sure I'd buy either one, but I'd definitely look for a used S&W 642, or equivalent. They can be had in that price range.
 
I've looked at most local stores, any S&W's are going for a premium, plus the looks of the Rossi looks more business like :-)
heard good things about the newer Rossi's. The EAA's yep are budget minded, finish isn't amazing, plus i think the trigger on the Rossi or S&W etc will be smoother.
 
I paid $350 out the door for my 642, albeit a few years ago. Prices have gone up, but if you aren't afraid of internet purchases, that could open up the door to finding one.

Rossi's can be hit or miss, but are definitely more refined then the Windicator. But, for the price, the Windicator gives you .357 magnum, and it can be tweaked. I must admit, I have always liked the "manly" look of the Windicator, and have been tempted many times to purchase, then tweak one out.
 
i'll have to look to see if i can find a EAA in 357.
for the most part i'm looking for a range toy with at least the capability to dispatch bad guys.

i have a little H&R 922 with a 2" barrel that can shoot under 2" at 7-10 yards, but i think a 2" on a longer gun mostly for the range is maybe too short.
 
go with the rossi if those two are the choice. I have a .357 Taurus Poly 605 I got for 299$ at a big box store. had it over a year and has over a thousand rounds, it's a good little gun and great for carry. very accurate

the rossi is probably a fine gun too, I have hard a bunch of stories of people needing work on the windicator, two people on this forum have had bad forcing cones and one had a timing issue and on had a cylinder gap problem, I would stay away

http://www.academy.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_10051_533703_-1__?N=39632047

people will tell you to stay away from Taurus/rossi, but I have 3 and love them all and never had a single issue. they are low end models too
 
Are you opposed to a used revolver? If not, there is an abundance of S&W's, Ruger and etc. out there within your price range.

I have acquired two S&W's meeting your requirement in the price range you mentioned over the last few months. Both are in great mechanical condition and appearance. They will last my lifetime and another generation. Both were acquired from GunBroker.

The nice thing is they will most likely not loose their value and possibly increase in value. A new revolver, unless you get a great buy, will initially loose some value.

Then again, there are a lot of nice .38 Specials new to suit you. It is a great caliber for your purposes.
 
http://www.jgsales.com/smith-wesson...ued,-4-heavy-barrel,-g-vg,-used.-p-58162.html

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...790/Used+S&W+Police+Model+10+38sp+Square+Butt

Without a doubt, this is a better use of your funds, really. These are absolutely rated for +P and everything about them except their exterior finish/wear is superior to the revolvers you have considered and the truth is, it's not even close.

$299 and free shipping from Bud's, maybe $20-$25 to a local FFL to receive the item? I believe it's the best answer.
 
Run some searches here on TFL forums for the Smith & Wesson Model 10 Heavy Barrel. What we're talking about here is the gun that started it's legend back at the turn of the century. (no, not the year 2000, the one BEFORE) This was the Smith & Wesson Hand Ejector Military & Police, Model of 1905 and they settled on the 4th Change. This gun went on mostly unchanged, became the S&W Victory Model during WWII and was designated the Model 10 in the late 1950s.

This is the most popular, best selling single handgun model in man's history, some 6-million plus have been made and sold. That number means two things for sure... it means that it is a quality design that was good enough to be made & sold in outrageous volume. And it also means that it's "collectible" value is typically always going to be low unless the condition is MINT and/or it happens to have some rare collection of odd factory features.

That means we can all buy a phenomenal handgun that will last lifetimes with proper care and we can do it for chump change.

I've basically got four of them now, down one as a buddy of mine simply had to have a particular one. And I swapped another one to a different pal for one that he had. These are simply fantastic revolvers. As so darn many of them were built & purchased by all different levels of government/public agencies, many of the ones available on the used market are former issued duty guns. That means a lot of exterior wear, probably a lot of lint & dirt & filth, but an awfully well designed and built gun underneath the lowly appearance. My best shooter of the ones I own is a Model 10-10 from 1994, a former Ohio Dept of Corrections issued revolver. I paid just $250 for it, but I've had it for 3 or 4 years.
 
The Windicator (stupidest name ever) is a 38 Special, right? SAAMI says any 38 Special should handle 20,000 PSI of chamber pressure. I think the +P runs 18,000-20,000 depending on manufacturer. So why wouldn't the Windicator be OK with it?
 
Sevens summed it up nicely and even provide a specific model and a couple of sources.

One of the two recent revolvers I acquired was a Model 10-5, and it is a beauty. I am not sure S&W or others still do bluing as nice as they did back then.
 
If the gun is primarily a range gun, .38 Special is entirely adequate. The Plus-P and magnum ammunition is no fun to shoot anyway.
Regular .38 Special is just fine for defense, too. Don't fall into the "Plus-P" hype!
 
The Windicator (stupidest name ever) is a 38 Special, right? SAAMI says any 38 Special should handle 20,000 PSI of chamber pressure. I think the +P runs 18,000-20,000 depending on manufacturer. So why wouldn't the Windicator be OK with it?


Except that the SAAMI 38 Special pressure standard is 3,000 PSI less than 38 Special+P

38 Special 17,000
38 Special +P 20,000
 
Another option would be an Armscor Model 200
https://us.armscor.com/products/m200/

Or the model 206.
https://us.armscor.com/products/m206/

They are not +P rated, but as has been pointed out that isn't a big deal. Most, if not all of your shooting will be done with standard pressure ammunition.
The Armscor revolvers are copies, not clones of Colt double action revolvers. They, of course, don't have the fine fit, and finish of Colt, or S&W, but have been getting very favorable reviews for a very value minded handgun at a price a few dollars over $200.
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/mobile/product/411539731/redirect
 
That's the cartridge rating. +P is a 38 Special and any 38 Special revolver should be fine with... oh, never mind. I give up. The lawyers win. I can't argue this any longer. The mountain of...well, it's simply too high to overcome.
 
That's the cartridge rating. +P is a 38 Special and any 38 Special revolver should be fine with... oh, never mind. I give up I can't argue this any longer. The mountain of facts, well, it's simply too high to overcome.

There, fixed it for you.
SAAMI pressure standard chart gives 38 Special at 17,000 psi
And 38 Special +P at 20,000 psi.
Just the facts ma'am to quote Sgt. Joe Friday.:D
http://handloads.com/misc/saami.htm

Are you going by the old, outdated SAAMI standard? Before gun makers introduced lightweight alloy framed revolvers?

Will a revolver not designed, or approved by the manufacturer for +P blow up in your hands? Most likely not. Would it safely handle a cylinder, or two full of +P to see how it shoots in it, probably.
Will a constant diet of +P ammo needlessly cause premature we are, and stress? You can bet your bippy on that one.
 
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