Looking for some Bin Laden INFO.

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Watching Fox News earlier, an anchor stated that recently released CIA and other documents stated that under Clinton, there were 10 different times that we could have captured or killed Bin Laden. Also stated that the reasons Clinton did not go after him was; Clinton was afraid of bombing a mosque, afraid of killing innocent bodyguards. If anyone has any info, or has researched it let me know.

I just want to research it for my self.
 
Al Franken is interesting, but unlike Sgt. Maj. Billy Waugh, he wasn't running surveillance on Bin Laden in Khartoum during the 1990's. I highly recommend Waugh's book Hunting The Jackal. :)
 
Have Fun!

Whether it's true or not, I read a post on the Liberty Forums with links to an India and Paki news report of the mans burial some weeks ago!
 
Well, I haven't seen any more of his grainy film productions lately. Maybe he's finally tired of all this film-making and gotten into currency speculation instead. He could have made a pile on the euro already.
 
Read the what? Oh that; you mean the novel published by that uh, independent Commission.

I thought the most intriging and elaborate chapters .. Uh .. I mean the half a page, was about the financing of the events. You know, all the financial institutions involved, the names of all the individuals, the account numbers, the flow of funding and other tangible assets etc. And all the indictments.

Absolutely magnificant was the detailed account of all that heavy stock trading in American and United Airlines in the days just before their planes flew into some buildings .. and how these people who profitted from this were brought to justice.

Then there were those complicit before the fact. Those people in government departments who were named, charged with their crimes, and brought to justice.

Just amazing.

But we can all be relieved that the truth is known, no stone left unturned, and no one complicit or who profitted been given a free pass over the dead bodies of a few thousand Americans.

Oh, Bin Laden? Who's he?
 
On March 3, 1996, Sudan's Minister of State for Defense Elfatih Erwa met with officials of the Clinton administration in Arlington seeking ways to improve relations with the US. At that time, Erwa was presented a document titled "Measures Sudan Can Take to Improve Relations with the United States." Item #2 on that list was "Osama bin Laden".

At a meeting 5 days later, Erwa stated Sudan would arrest and turn over bin Laden and asked where to send him. Sandy Berger, Clinton's National Security Advisor, has stated about the offer, "The FBI did not believe we had enough evidence to indict bin Laden at that time and therefore opposed bringing him to the United States."

The US then asked the Sudan to expel bin Laden. When asked where to send him, they were told "anywhere but Somalia." In an interview by the London-based Arab language newspaper Al-Quds al-Arabi, when asked what his options were at that time, bin Laden said, "I have to live in a Muslim country and so the choice is between Yemen and Afghanistan." Yemen refused him, so he went to Afghanistan.
 
Watching Fox News earlier, an anchor stated that recently released CIA and other documents stated that under Clinton, there were 10 different times that we could have captured or killed Bin Laden. Also stated that the reasons Clinton did not go after him was; Clinton was afraid of bombing a mosque, afraid of killing innocent bodyguards. If anyone has any info, or has researched it let me know.
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All FOX news has anti demo spin, it's owned by Rupert Murdoch. Here are some facts I uncovered when I researched the same subject:

1) Clinton authorized at least three separate attempts to asassinate Bin Laden through the CIA (I am sure there were more that can not be declassified). Two involved the use of hired mercenaries sent into Afghanistan, the other were the cruise missile attempts. They all failed.


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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/etc/cron.html

Spring 1996 President Clinton signed a top secret order that authorized the CIA to use any and all means to destroy bin Laden's network.

July 1997 According to Islamic sources, a US-backed multinational mercenary force is formed with the aim of abducting or killing bin Laden. Witnesses claim to see 11 black Land Cruisers crossing into the Afghan city of Khost along with 2 helicopters. A source said force was composed of 1000 non-US mercenaries. (Source: Mideast Mirror 7/14/97--al-Hayat & al-Arab)



2) The whining about Clinton not allowing the cruise missile attack: the ID on Bin laden was weak, and there were members of the royal family from the UAR who would have also been killed. Pre 9/11, killing them was not an option.

3) Lots of whining about how they offered Bin laden to Clinton and he refused: but we had no charges to hold him on and at that time (prior to 9/11), we had to at least pretend we abided by international law... taking him and locking him up without charges would have been kidnapping.

As somebody said:

" ......has stated about the offer, "The FBI did not believe we had enough evidence to indict bin Laden at that time and therefore opposed bringing him to the United States."

BINGO. No way to bring charges against him, nothing to extradite with. That was the law back when people still had civil liberties.... you had to be charged with something before they could throw you in prison.

4) The saudis DID have Bin laden in prison on valid charges and could have thrown away the key. he tried to overthrow their government when he came home from the Afghan war. They locked him up then got scared so they just let him go and told him not to come back (he went to the sudan).

As to what Clinton was "afraid" of: he was president before 9/11. He knew OBL was bad news and tried to kill him covertly. He did use outright force when it was called for in Bosnia, so he was not afraid to use the military. I never heard anybody accuse him of being afraid of damaging a mosque.
 
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All FOX news has anti demo spin, it's owned by Rupert Murdoch. Here are some facts I uncovered when I researched the same subject:
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Unlike YOU, who is totally un-biased. :rolleyes:

So how about citing the sources of your "research"?
 
Fox News is just a little more cooperative in it's choice of stories and coverage of news items than CNN, CBS etc. But not by much; just enough to allow them to be portrayed as the "opposition".

But Fox News has - or at least has had - some reporters who have not toed the line on the Bush administrations' (both Sr and Jr) agendas in Iraq. Bill Gallagher who has written for the Niagara Falls Reporter is one of them. Of course what Fox, CNN's (etc) reporters investigate and write - they don't necessarily air on their news broadcasts. ;)
 
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BINGO. No way to bring charges against him, nothing to extradite with. That was the law back when people still had civil liberties.... you had to be charged with something before they could throw you in prison.
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...or burn your house down around your ears. :rolleyes: Let's not wax rhapsodic about that being some lost Golden Age of civil liberties, h'mkay? ;)
 
Unlike YOU, who is totally un-biased.

So how about citing the sources of your "research"?
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Last time I checked, I didn't go around claiming my mantrah was "Fair and Balanced" and I didn't make a living shoveling propoganda to the masses.

As for sources, my bookmarks died when the last computer blew up. Many of the sources have been removed as they kill off the sites where the articles were posted as time goes by. I just published what I found when I researched it about 10 months ago. I am not in the business of doing everybody's work for them, all browsers have a search button. If you don't want to believe what I posted, I really don't care. The originator of the thread asked:

If anyone has any info, or has researched it let me know.
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I answered his question.
 
Fox News is just a little more cooperative in it's choice of stories and coverage of news items than CNN, CBS etc. But not by much; just enough to allow them to be portrayed as the "opposition".
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Rent the video "Outfoxed" and get back to us on that. It is all video clips from FOX air time, and they speak for themselves.
 
As for sources, my bookmarks died when the last computer blew up.
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How "convenient" for you! :rolleyes: For someone who is always demanding "verifiable" facts and everyone elses sources, you now admit that YOU have been posting nothing but unverifiable hearsay and rumors.

So, in other words, there's no difference between you and a run of the mill TROLL! :D
 
i know he had one chance but it was risky in that osama bin laden might not be there when the missle hit......
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There were approximately 3000 people in NYC a while back who I'm sure would have found the risk acceptable......
 
'I didn't make a living shoveling propaganda to the masses'...

No, but you do a fair amount of free shoveling work here on TFL. Give it a rest, will ya.
 
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