Sorry dude, you won't hear me bad mouthing the P7.
Greg Bell must have had the only "Monday" P7 ever built.
Yeah, it gets hot. Quit ya whinning. It's not a comfort weapon. The recoil system develops a lot of friction and heat. It was designed as an anti-terrorist gun for personnel wearing gloves.
It's designed to run dirty. It's in the manual. Read it. You only have to do a full blown cleaning about ever 1,000 rounds.
The finish is not as good as a Glock but better than Sig. On par with Beretta.
If the P7s were such crappy guns, why did the market gobble them up after the factory refurb release a year ago? And it's not the price, people only saved $300 or so dollars off of new. Don't see them bouncing back through the auction sites.
The P7 and the Sig P210 are the only two 9mm's that will smoke most 1911s out to 25 yards. It's a great gun. If I could only have one 9mm, that would be it.
I don't know about the other guns but you've mixed calibers and if I was looking for great CCW 9mm's, the Glock 26 and Kahr K9 would have to be considered.
CZs are well made but are not great CCW guns. Kind of the Ruger of the European world. I'd consider an EAA Witness based upon their accessories. If you get a 45, you can conversion kits for 9mm and .22lr..
But don't anybody ever tell you the P7 isn't one of the sweetest guns ever made.
Half inch groups at 25 yards out the box. If somebody's talkin, they just haven't owned one long enough or are blaming the equipment for their shortcomings or just can't afford one.
The vast majority of shooters I know haven't even heard about one let along seen one or shot one.
What other gun keeps on shooting without an ejector?
In the past year of combing HKPro, HK Forum, and Park Cities, I can't recall of one P7 kBoom or major mechanical failure. For that matter, even a minor failure. Its made out of the finest steel, that's why its heavy and it will gobble up 1500 fps 115 grain rounds like candy. No wussy +P warnings in that manual.
But several Glock, Sig, HK USP, Beretta, Colt, and 1911 sites post tons of mechanical, metalurgical, and engineering problems with those guns.
Whatever man makes, can usually be improved. But the P7 is pretty close.
So . . . don't mess with the P7 Cult!
My unbaised impartial opinion.