Looking for critique on a new magazine loader

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First! Glad to be here.

I do not want to discuss business, cost or anything like that. This is an unreleased product and I don't want to break any rules about advertising. This is just meant to help aid the design and concept of the loader

Any and all comments are welcome and I'm here to answer all questions :)

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https://youtu.be/7YAmDXNpOQQ

The loader supports 9MM, .40 and .45 calibers in double and single stack, including extra capacity. There are plans to expand the ammo types if the product does well. The hoppers are available in 100, 250, 500 and 1000 round capacities. At full speed it will load 2 rounds/sec

It is fully programmable and up to 10 magazines can be saved to the memory. The digital display keeps track of how many rounds remain in the current hopper and provides a read out of what will be loaded into the next mag. Wall power 120v/240v or 18v lithium Rigid battery packs. One 18v pack will load about 500 rounds

Think it's dumb? Tell me! Think it's great? Tell me! Everything
 
Just seems to be a bit over-kill for loading mags unless your making a business of it??
Sure not very portable and how much will that damn thing cost anyway?
My Uplula loader is all I ever need at the range and it only cost me $30 bucks or so.:rolleyes:
 
I can't give a price but it's certainly not what I would consider a lot.

Uplula is great. I have one and use the heck out of it.

This loader is great for people with arthritis, disabled persons or injured vets, competition shooters, people who are able to train at home, and just anyone who wants tech. You can show up with only two mags and never stop. It's loading one mag while you unload the other into the target.

And it will get smaller, possibly a great deal. But it has to start somewhere

Innovation is important even if it doesn't fit what you might need.
 
Well, it wouldn't be for me but maybe a shooting range would buy one for all their shooters to use. It would pretty much have to be jam proof though.
 
I agree with both Dale and Thomas said.

Looks really expensive, and it's not going to the range with you.
I see it mostly covers pistol calibers.. the Uplula is a fantastic loader for about 30 bucks and is highly portable.

I think it's a neat idea but I'd imagine what ever figure it turns to be is going to be well above what I'd pay.

A machine like that I would think it should also handle rifle rounds as well.
It looks like one of those cool but impractical projects.
 
The range version is much bigger and more feature rich.

If someone can tell me I won't get booted, I will reveal the estimated price. I know this isn't for everyone and I don't expect it to be

This will get smaller by the final version. This one has the size needed to accommodate our diagnostics for prototyping and will load 33rd mags.
 
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I use my Upula a lot. Saves the thumbs from pain. Particularly when you're shoving the last two rounds in a magazine.

I find that ones for AR-15 and AK-47 to be good as gold, too.

I don't see myself needing to Load more than 3 magazines at any one time.

Competitive shooters, sure. But I'm not shooting for bread on my table.


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It is a neat concept...

An idea to make it more practical... A quick setup button.

insert the mag, then have a single button that increases the amount of rounds to load by 5.

Most magazines in compact to full size pistols will hold 10 or 15 rounds. Sure, many will hold a few more than 10 or 15... But in a training environment, do you really need to load your 17 round mag to full capacity?

This would make it easy to switch between different magazines and firearms.

Glock 17 mag... Beep Beep Beep
M&P Compact mag... Beep Beep


Ease of use is critical in something like this, and maximizing the number of situations where this can be useful is key.

If the price is reasonable, and the size is kept in check... Maximizing portability as best as possible.

I see it as handy for a high volume shooter or competition shooter.

Quick and easy loading of multiples of 5 would make it useful for a range that does rentals, where they allow you to try before you buy or otherwise control round count.
 
Not something I would consider buying. But, I'd be interested in seeing more. Let's see it in action.

And as was said before - Uplula.
 
I could see something like that being attractive to a limited number of shooters but it would need to be much smaller and light (or it's staying at home), and the price would need to be pretty low.

You're aware of the UPLULA and that is what people will compare it to. With that in mind, the performance benefit of the device compared to the UPLULA will have to justify the price difference/convenience difference for purchasers.
If someone can tell me I won't get booted, I will reveal the estimated price.
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As long as you don't start asking for orders and the discussion doesn't start to look like marketing/advertising there's not an issue.

When you start actually selling, that needs to be done in the "Gun Show" portion of TheFiringLine, following the rules posted in those subforums.
 
For an individual consumer, that looks awesome, but impractical. It's not something you'd keep in your range bag like the aforementioned Uplula.

For an institition (such as a shooting range, or a the host of an IDPA match), it seems more useful, but there is a hitch - it seems really easy to mix up calibers with it if multiple people are using it.

That's not a problem for the single user (who probably wouldn't but it for the reason I listed above), but it is a possible problem for a range that leaves that out for customers to use.

That's just my opinion, though, so take it wolith a grain of salt. If you take it to SHOT show, you'll probably hear from the people whose opinions actually matter. Nevertheless, kudos to you for actually building it - that's way more than most people ever do.

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There are a few other model coming soon, with one meant specifically for ranges

This is the second version of the base consumer model. The final version coming out next week is much much smaller

Sub $225 is what we are shooting for
 
It is cool but just not practical. In my mind, you have this in reverse.

If this is what everyone had and you came up with an Upula, you would claim that it was cheaper, smaller-can hang from your belt, used no electricity and never failed. You would sell a zillion of them.

I would only pursue this an an investor if someone out there sits and does this for hours on end to supply a group of shooters or someone who shoots 500 an hour and may be there is but I can't think of anyone around me who does.

Keep thinking and keep developing, WD-40 took 40 tries!!!
 
Many of our fellow shooters are disabled. Whether they have arthritis or are missing appendages, it is still difficult or impossible with other loaders. We don't foresee a huge consumer market. Ranges are our target but we have to start somewhere.

The two videos have been out three days and have 1500+ views. Our inbox on FB and IG is packed with people who would like one. There are millions of us, even if only .05% of shooters buy one, that's a market. This is built in house. Every sale is worthwhile
 
I load a lot of 9mm 33 round Glock mags, gets kind of tiresome with an UpLula, If my range had one I would consider it a nice amenity.
 
I really does look cool, but I am worried about your business model. In different places of the thread you seem to indicate both low margin and low volume. One of those has to change for you to stay afloat. Honestly, I have a hard time seeing it be something that a high proportion of shooters buy, so you might have to charge more and market to ranges.
 
I think the market here (as others have said) is ranges, specifically ones that rent out fully automatic weapons.

If it were my range I would suggest that they stay behind the counter and the employees use the equipment to decrease the chance of the wrong round ending up in a magazine. Also saves the customers time I guess?
 
This is not the only version. We have a consumer version and a very different range version. We are a plastics manufacturer, this isn't even a percent of what we do. Just a comment for those worried about our business since there seem to be a few of you ;)
 
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