Looking for a Handgun

this is your first handgun it's something that later you will look back and cherish...go with something nicer. your budget definitely allows that. skip the value, best bang for your buck brands, BUT do your research ahead of time.

youll have access to Hk, Colt, Sig 45 platforms.

the best performers in that category are in the 500 region namely the Glock 21 gen 4 or gen 3 SF and the M&P45...but there isn't much sentimental value :D
 
1st pistol

Your dad's a policeman? Why not ask his or his friends' advice and also fire some of their personal weapons?

1911's, Browning Hi-Powers, and other single action pistols can pose safe handling issues. Once a round is chambered, the hammer remains cocked, and the shooter must make a decision: either place thumb safety on the safe condition or let the hammer down on a live round. This latter choice can result in a negligent discharge if your thumb slips. The other choice is to leave the pistol in a cocked and locked condition--hammer back with safety on. Imo cocked and locked is safer, but many are not comfortable with it.

Even if you start out with mag loaded and an empty chamber, racking the slide puts you back in the what's my choice phase.

My advice: get your pop to help you locate a good deal on a Beretta 92, which does have more safety features than the 1911 types. Police trade-ins are usualy good deals. Get the 9mm first and then trade it for something else later if you choose.
 
You have been shooting for 9 years, and handguns, to boot. I usually recommend a .22 for new handgun shooters. It allows developing the habits of good gun handling, teaches good sight picture and gets you on the range. All good things for the newbie.

Despite your not being a newbie, getting on the range with a decent target-grade 22 rimfire will allow you to see other shooters with a variety of different handguns (some of which you may not have seen or had extensive experience with).

Ammo for the 22 is relatively cheap. Most shooters are very happy to show off their "pride and joy" 's (and even to let you shoot a few rounds through their guns; there is nothing but showing a young man how proud you are of your guns).

You asked our advice on what gun to get. Most of our advice is pertinent to our preferences and experiences, not yours. I suggest a way to get the sampling to absorb the experience to decide for yourself what is best for you.

My experience: I started with a .357 Magnum Dan Wesson ($150) and an RCBS reloading press (Loading my own was the only way I could afford to shoot, on my Air Force pay.) in 1975. I can't say that I would have done a .22 rimfire myself, even knowing what I know now, as I didn't shoot at a range, but just went out into the Arizona desert. But with age comes wisdom. I very likely would have dug up another $100 (remember, 1975) and gotten a Ruger Mark II or Browning Buckmark in addition to the Dan Wesson.

I do have an equal fondness of "wheelies" as I do for "bottom feeders", so consider myself a fair advisor for you.

Remember, even though you (obviously) like semi-autos, revolvers are kinder to their brass (for reloading, which I am obviously urging you to consider) and revolvers are capable of a lot more power than autoloaders (shameless promotional). I do like my 1911s and my Taurus 99 and 92.

The obvious question to ask is, "What do you want to do with your sidearm?". You mentioned hunting and target shooting. 22 LR is good for hunting small game (rabbits and such, just meal sized-a head shot on a grouse destroys very little meat) and 38 special does well, too. 9mm guns are not known for their accuracy. You mentioned your preference for 45 ACP. The 45 ACP is not known for good results on medium sized game, nor for good accuracy (though supreme accuracy can be had in many reasonably priced guns). The 45 ACP was intended from its inception as a social round (shooting people). Hunting was never in its sights. The 45 Colt, likewise, but it has adapted to be a fine hunting round. The 44 Magnum is very closeto the 45 Colt, too (some people say better, others say not better, but all agree the contest is close.)

If you are open to a revolver, the Ruger Blackhawk 45 Colt/45 ACP convertible is a fine choice. The economy of the 45ACP, the power of 45 Colt, the accuracy of a fixed barrel revolver and the unique character of the single action revolver.

38 Special and .357 magnum revolvers abound on the used market and many are of exceptional accuracy.

I hope my ramblings help.

Lost Sheep
 
Just a few things. The 45 acp is O.K. for woods carry, but not that great for any real hunting. The 1911 platform is on the heavy side to carry for much hiking.

One of the most versatile guns out there is a 4" 357, 6" if mostly range use. If you are set on a 45acp how about an H&K HK-45c? Yes a little more $$ involved.

Either way I wouldn't get to wrapped up in making the 'right' decision. You will eventually get at least several to cover the different uses. A 22 semi-auto and/or a Glock 23(9mm conversion barrel later) are some ideas.
 
one of my favorite pack revolvers,686 in .357 with 2.5 inch barrel,i did change the grip to packee,s. eastbank.
 

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calculate the muzzle energy of the best 9mm loads, best 45acp loads, and best 40S&W loads.. you wont find any difference.. though 45acp is quite a deal larger than 9mm and 40S&W, it only operates at less than 2/3 the pressure the others do, so bigger doesnt neccessarily mean more power... the reality of it is theres little difference
 
The target shooting and hunting roles are compatible, but both of those roles are usually incompatible with carry.

It seems like you've arrived at .45 by using a decision process that splits the difference between 9mm and .40 S&W, but there are known good hunting rounds already.

Some people really fall in love with a particular caliber; I am one of those people. I love 9mm. I like 9mm pistols, I want a 9mm carbine, I want a 9mm derringer, I want a 9mm revolver. I just love 9mm.

I think some people are very fond of a particular caliber and then they proceed from there to apply optimistic thinking that it will fill every role i.e. : fend off everything from feral dogs to brown bears, kill varmints - (everything from rats to coyotes), take game, (everything from squirrels to big horn sheep).

Some of the already proven hunting rounds are .22, .357 magnum, .44 magnum and 10mm. They’re not the only hunting rounds but they’re probably the most common handgun hunting rounds.

I think the versatility of revolvers in general is under-rated. They reliably fire a huge range of different bullets weights that most semi-automatics can’t. You take a 357 magnum for instance, it can fire everything from 38 special rat shot to 357 magnum 180gr bullets. You’d be hard pressed to find a semi-auto that could cycle all that stuff. Just as far as ballistics go – the 357 is capable of firing rounds that are proven to be extremely effective for self-defense. The 357 is also capable of firing rounds that have great ballistics for hunting.

The same could be said of the .44 magnum.

If you want something that’s extremely versatile you might want to look at the Five-Seven. It’s not going to take big game or fend off cougars or grizzly bears but it does a fair job of everything else and it doesn’t blow small game to smithereens when you shoot them.

Otherwise, I think you’re looking at getting multiple guns in different calibers to fill the different roles.
 
i think the .357 will handle any big game animal including a wild cat. a big assed bear is a different game,as a last resort i would take any firearm. eastbank.
 
I would also look at the FNH FNX 45. They fit my hand really well. If you like the M&P then I think that the FNH is a good pick. I have found them for about $650-$750.
 
If I were to start new:
1. Glock 19
2. Ruger SR9c
3. S&W M&Pc
4. Springfield Armory XDM compact

All in 9mm. I'd but a 642 snub for pocket carry too.

I've owned a lot of pistols and revolvers in the last 25 years. These listed above are reliable and work well.

Good luck with your purchase.
 
My shooting buddy just got a Remington 1911 R1 Enhanced model, and we both think it's terrific. So far we have only shot the cheapest factory stuff we could find, $15 - $18 per 50 rounds of hardball, and all loads have been accurate and no FTFs of any kind. The only thing he added was an extended slide release which he fitted himself, and it works great. The red "light pipe" front sight is wonderful for my 56 year old eyes. Highly recommended!
 
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