Long gun thru mail, Fed-x, UPS-new twist
- Thread starter gkdir
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"You misread that, his mother was just shipping him his own rifle he left standing in a locked box at her place"
If they are residents of the same state it is fine.
If they are NOT residents of the same state you have a problem.
YOU can ship YOUR rifle to YOURSELF in another state, or to a third party in another state if they DO NOT OPEN the package and take possession.
You cannot ship someone else's rifle to them in another state.
If they are residents of the same state it is fine.
If they are NOT residents of the same state you have a problem.
YOU can ship YOUR rifle to YOURSELF in another state, or to a third party in another state if they DO NOT OPEN the package and take possession.
You cannot ship someone else's rifle to them in another state.
WOW--opened up a can of worms. (Figured I would) One fellow asked if the question was "hypothetical". Initially it was, but so many different opinions have arisen, it has now evolved into the realm of, " Hmmmmm" (dangerous place, yet not one untrod). I know that legally I can "loan" a weapon to someone authorized to have it. I also know that I can legally ship "my rifle" to myself, in care of someone else, as long as it is declared at point of origin, and not opened at the recievers end,, except by myself (hmmmmm # 1) who the hell is going to know who opens it? Not a trouble maker guys, just one of those hard heads that insist on 100% proof positive if an outside source (not this forum obviously) is going to "TELL" me what I can or can't do. Let the dissertation continue !
Blue Steel
New member
From the ATF Federal Firearms Regulation Guide:
May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier?
A non licensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]
May a nonlicensee ship firearms interstate for his or her use in hunting or other lawful activity?
Yes. A person may ship a firearm to himself or herself in care of another person in the State where he or she intends to hunt or engage in any other lawful activity. The package should be addressed to the owner. Persons other than the owner should not open the package and take possession of the firearm.
I can't find any good information about dealer requirements when transfering a firearm shipped interstate for the purposes of loan instead of sale. I can't believe these statues aren't crystal clear and easy to understand (rolls eyes).
May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier?
A non licensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]
May a nonlicensee ship firearms interstate for his or her use in hunting or other lawful activity?
Yes. A person may ship a firearm to himself or herself in care of another person in the State where he or she intends to hunt or engage in any other lawful activity. The package should be addressed to the owner. Persons other than the owner should not open the package and take possession of the firearm.
I can't find any good information about dealer requirements when transfering a firearm shipped interstate for the purposes of loan instead of sale. I can't believe these statues aren't crystal clear and easy to understand (rolls eyes).
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johnwilliamson062
Moderator
Agree with Blume 357.
Having terrible trouble on swapgiant with a rumor that you can transfer to someone in a neighboring state. All kinds of people from Kentucky and Indiana are posting up for trades, adamantly claiming they don't need to use an FFL b/c the states touch, then fading away when the laws are posted.
Having terrible trouble on swapgiant with a rumor that you can transfer to someone in a neighboring state. All kinds of people from Kentucky and Indiana are posting up for trades, adamantly claiming they don't need to use an FFL b/c the states touch, then fading away when the laws are posted.
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stungunmike
Inactive
Why couldn't he just send it to himself, and have the occupant sign for it. Then call them up and give them permission to open his mail?
I dunno. There's always a loophole somewhere.
I dunno. There's always a loophole somewhere.
dogtown tom
New member
Because to do what you just described would not be shipping a firearm to yourself. As you described it, the shipper has no intent to actually ship to himself, but to the occupants of that address.
There is no such thing as a loophole. Either the law allows it or not. in this case the shipper AND recepient would be in violation of Federal law.