Gunslinger555 -- when you refer to Dublin, are your referring to a town in Ohio, Ireland or California?
California law specifies that a firearm is considered loaded...
So the Californicating legislature has said that semi-auto pistols with a single round in a magazine with the magazine attached to the firearm (or inserted) is considered a loaded gun. Local LEOs will tell you that a round in a magazine in the passenger compartment and the gun locked in the trunk constitutes a "loaded gun". One DA I spoke with stretches credibility by claiming that the magazine doesn't have to be for that particular gun. When I asked if a loaded magazine for a .45 paired with a .22 pistol constituted a loaded firearm, he said "Yes, and we'll prosecute for that." :barf:
Thus, the police finding your loaded 1911 magazine in the car and an unloaded 1911 locked in a locking case locked in the trunk will/can charge you with having a "loaded" weapon.
Interestingly, the way the law is written, if you substitute a speed-loader for the magazine and a revolver for the pistol, there is no violation of law. The speedloader is not a "firing chamber" nor a magazine. I suppose some bright DA will torture the English language so that a speed-loader fulfills the definition of a "clip". And no, they never officially defined "clip".
Because this is not limited to handguns, I'm wondering how far they could push this. Last time I went to the range with my 1903-A3 I took along a sealed "spam can" of Greek .30-06 ammo which contained bandoleers packed with 5-round stripper clips.
California law specifies that a firearm is considered loaded...
when there is an unexpended cartridge or shell, ..., in, or attached in any manner to, the firearm, including, but not limited to, in the firing chamber, magazine, or clip thereof attached to the firearm; except that a muzzle-loader firearm shall be deemed to be loaded when it is capped or primed and has a powder charge and ball or shot in the barrel or cylinder.
So the Californicating legislature has said that semi-auto pistols with a single round in a magazine with the magazine attached to the firearm (or inserted) is considered a loaded gun. Local LEOs will tell you that a round in a magazine in the passenger compartment and the gun locked in the trunk constitutes a "loaded gun". One DA I spoke with stretches credibility by claiming that the magazine doesn't have to be for that particular gun. When I asked if a loaded magazine for a .45 paired with a .22 pistol constituted a loaded firearm, he said "Yes, and we'll prosecute for that." :barf:
Thus, the police finding your loaded 1911 magazine in the car and an unloaded 1911 locked in a locking case locked in the trunk will/can charge you with having a "loaded" weapon.
Interestingly, the way the law is written, if you substitute a speed-loader for the magazine and a revolver for the pistol, there is no violation of law. The speedloader is not a "firing chamber" nor a magazine. I suppose some bright DA will torture the English language so that a speed-loader fulfills the definition of a "clip". And no, they never officially defined "clip".
Because this is not limited to handguns, I'm wondering how far they could push this. Last time I went to the range with my 1903-A3 I took along a sealed "spam can" of Greek .30-06 ammo which contained bandoleers packed with 5-round stripper clips.