LIGHTER and lighter Handguns

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Ed Brunner

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Maybe it it's because I am a COF, but is anyone else amused by the recent trend toward lighter handguns in larger calibers. Yesterday it was Titanium, today it's Scandium. The explanation is that the customer wants lighter "carry" guns. As many have no intention of ever firing the thing, perhaps they will opt for lighter ammo too?

What kind of a sick perverted commie pansya$$ed so called American could think that a 1911 is too heavy???


No girlie guns for this Proud American!

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Better days to be,

Ed
 
Easier to carry concealed all the time. I don't know about anyone else, but I use full house loads, but then I don't know if my Glock 33 is particularly lightweight - I think it runs abt 23 oz unloaded.

FWIW, I think the 1911 is one of the easier guns to conceal. The slim build makes the weight sit pretty well in a concealment holster. They're pretty, too. But I'd rather have the capacity and the tiny length of the Glock, not to mention the cartridge.

I don't know, Ed, but I sort of like the titanium trend. Maybe it'll get more women to carry, be good for the country.
 
Shucks, I'm not even shure stainless is here to stay, still too new for me.

Sam...mind like a steel trap, rusty and banned in most states
 
I was showing someone my Beretta 8040 this past weekend. He couldn't believe it was that light. I thought he was maybe nuts until I saw and held what he was carrying. It was a 40S&W Hi-Point. It reminded me of a cast iron skillet. Made me appreciate the quality that I purchase.
 
"Girlie guns"? I tell you what... it takes a Real American Man to shoot 158gr +P through a titanium J-frame! Don't need some 10lb piece of iron to make the recoil all soft and cozy for this guy! :D

Seriously though, some of us don't have the option of carrying hefty hardware around during our day-to-day lives. The office environment and business suits (or lack thereof) often limit us to either really puny guns, or very lightweight guns. 1911's aren't too heavy, they're just too heavy to carry in your sock. My titanium J-frames carry very nicely in the inside pocket of a suit jacket, or in an ankle holster if that's my only option. Yes, I wish I could walk around with two Beretta 92's in thigh holsters but that doesn't go over well at board meetings.

Anyway, why is any trend that encourages more law abiding citizens to take self defense (and RKBA) seriously a bad thing? Yes, I’m amused. As soon as they make a titanium 1911 I’ll be very amused!
 
JJR; I have to agree with you about the recoil. That is a large part of what I dont understand about this trend.
And I confess that I might have slightly overstated it just a little bit maybe, but you get the idea.
I also confess that I have a LIGHTWEIGHT Colt Commander. It was the only one I could find when I bought it.

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You have to be there when it's all over. Otherwise you can't say "I told you so."

Better days to be,

Ed
 
i would rather have 10% of the population carrying lightweight or small compact firearms comfortably than 1% of the population carrying heavy/bulky firearms. the more good guys/gals we get to carry the better protected we are and the more allies we have to vote for our freedoms protection

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Naw Ed, you didn't really overstate it, and I hope I didn't sound that defensive. We're all just havin' fun.

I just think that since we try to buy comfortable clothes and comfortable shoes, I don't see what's wrong with carrying comfortable guns (granted that one can still shoot them). For many, many years now, I've been trying to find a "better" way to carry in my envorinment. It took me a long time to realize that it wasn't the size or the bulk, but the weight that made it difficult. I had the same problem with my guns too ;).

The new ultra-light guns designed with CCW in mind have opened up many posibilities for me. I hope they just keep getting lighter.
 
I may carry my full size 1911 every day and have no qualms with the weight; however, my mother really appreciates the light weight of her 19 oz. .357 Mag
 
If you ever have to fire in a stressful situation you will not even notice the recoil. Not that it will help you with the second shot but the felt recoil will be negated by the situation.

Personally I like carrying my HP which is very heavy. It weighs more empty than my 92FS does fully loaded.

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The best weapon for self defense is the one you have when the need arises!
 
Ed,
Since lightweight platforms and largebullets are becoming a problem for ya....Ill be happy to take that lightweight commander off your hands.......lol...fubsy.
 
fubsy; I think that is the one I will keep until they pry it loose.
Actually recoil doesnt bother me. I suspect it might be a factor in a truly light 44 Magnum or whatever.
The only thing I ever fired that hurt was a .375 H&H Magnum. Handguns have never been a problem.


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You have to be there when it's all over. Otherwise you can't say "I told you so."

Better days to be,

Ed
 
I think the lighter and lighter trend has reached its pitch just so companies can say "my gun is lighter than YOUR gun." As far as ease of carry, I bet no one can tell the difference in an airweight vs. Ti, at least not in a holster, probably not even in a pocket. Aluminum is quite light enough for me to be no fun to fire very much. Any less weight is downright upleasant recoil-wise.

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I hate to break this to you, but Titanium, although lighter than steel, is heavier than Aluminum. I don't have my material spec sheets here at home, but I believe Ti is heavier than Al by about 12%.
Eric

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Start carrying a gun 24-7, for a living and then we'll talk about the weight of guns and whether or not it matters. Believe me guys, my Kel-Tec P-32 is the prefered carry gun these days, 6.6 ounces and 8 rounds of silvertip. Don't get me wrong, but if the guns is to heavy, it will get left at home, on the day that you really need it and the first rule of gun fighting is to remember to bring a gun, any gun is better than a sharp stick.

7th

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Actually I believe that a Titanium 1911 has already been produced. If I recall correctly the cost is upwards of six grand. A little more than I would ever be willing to pay. Somebody posted a link to it several months ago.
 
Today, Spit & Washem introduced a new gun to their extensive line. Weighing in at only 2.3 ounces, it a 4 shot, small frame, 2 1/8" barreled revolver chambered in .500 Linebaugh. It is made from a new ultra-light, ultra-strong alloy called "breakwristium". It is apparently composed mainly of spider webs and fairy dust.
This correspondent tried to interview several shooters who had each tried to fire the gun, but could get no responses. The EMT's were too busy trying to remove the firearms from where they were embedded into the foreheads of the various subjects. Film at 11:00......

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Shoot straight & make big holes, regards, Richard at The Shottist's Center
 
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