Light Recoil 12 ga Ammunition

The glaring flaw in your argument here is that DanThaMan1776 is not a member of Law Enforcement. If he was, I would have recommended 00 buckshot to him.
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Don't know what LE vs. civilian has to do with the effeciency of low recoil 00 buck--- which is produced for the civilian market as well as LE. Seems the intended use for both is the same.

One's called Tactical. One isn't. Both have plated shot with FliteControl wad and are ballistically identical.

Yes, I know, for indoor use there are some who'd go to smaller shot to reduce penetration while also reducing effectiveness--but that's another issue.


Possible useful info for those still on the thread.

BUCK from 18" cyl bore using ProChrono digital.
Fed. Tac. low recoil---------- 1160fps
Win Ranger------------------ 1107 (lead)
Fed Classic 00----------------- 1300 (approx)

NOTE: Hornady TAP also uses the FliteControl wad, but with 00 lead buck. Same tight patterns, but 2 rds. out of 8 failed to release shot and went into tgt. with the wad. That's with cyl. bore. With IC bbl, no issues. (pressure issue at muzzle?:o)
I'm sure the lead wants to stick together more so than the Fed's. plated.

I read where Fed. was designing a tactical version where the buck was designed not to release. That'd be quite the "bowling pin" effect upon impact.


SLUGS
Fed. Tac--------------------------------------1236
Ranger---------------------------------------1193
Fed. Classic----------------------------------1495
Rottweil Brenneke 1 0z.---------------------1372 (kinda in between low recoil and standard)
I hope the added info is at least interesting, if not useful.:)
 
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which is produced for the civilian market as well as LE. Seems the intended use for both is the same.
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But civilian shooters are much more restricted in the kinds of scenarios that they can legally shoot under. They are not enforcers of the law, nor protectors of the peace, like law enforcement officers are.

Because of this, they do not have the same requirements for the ammo that they use, compared to the needs of law enforcement.

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Fiocchi has some excellent nickle-plated 00 reduced recoil, full-power 00, and 27-pellet #4 buckshot in ten round boxes available for $5.50-5.75 a box.. It's unbuffered, but excellent for smaller homes or apartment/condo dwellings where distances aren't that far
 
But civilian shooters are much more restricted in the kinds of scenarios that they can legally shoot under. They are not enforcers of the law, nor protectors of the peace, like law enforcement officers are.

Because of this, they do not have the same requirements for the ammo that they use, compared to the needs of law enforcement.
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LOL, OK, contact Federal and let them know. Seems as if those silly people aren't making a distinction between Criminals shot by LE and those necessarily shot by citizens defending their lives. Obviously there are two different species of feral man---each requiring different ballistic standards. How could they not see that?:p
 
LOL, OK, contact Federal and let them know. Seems as if those silly people aren't making a distinction between Criminals shot by LE and those necessarily shot by citizens defending their lives. Obviously there are two different species of feral man---each requiring different ballistic standards. How could they not see that?
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Then why is Federal selling so many #4 Buckshot loads? Your argument here makes no sense at all.

I am not talking about differences existing in the TARGET. I am talking about differences in the SHOOTING SCENARIOS. Law Enforcement needs ammo with greater penetration because they often face situations that can benefit from having it.

Civilians don't go around chasing criminals and shooting them inside cars, for example. Nor do civilians go up against criminals that have barricaded themselves. Nor do civilians shoot at fleeing felons who may be quartering away from them, and thus need greater penetration to reach vital organs.

Civilians are typically going to be shooting at short ranges, at someone that is in the act of immediately threatening them. If you go around and shoot people fleeing from you on foot, fleeing in an automobile, or concealed behind a barrier, you are most likely going to jail.

You simply don't have the same rights and authority that members of Law Enforcement have. Your legal right to shoot is severely restricted by state law.

Sure, 00 Buckshot will be able to go through Auto Safety Glass and still be able to penetrate well. But if a civilian shot someone in such a scenario, they would be arrested for being a vigilante.

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Civilians don't go around chasing criminals and shooting them inside cars, for example. Nor do civilians go up against criminals that have barricaded themselves.
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Right.:rolleyes: Bubba would never barricade himself behind my couch or heavy chair requiring the penetration offered by 00 buck, and a hold up man in a small family owned store, or jewelry shop, would lnever duck behind cover. If you want to stick with #4 then I'm ok with that. Use 7 1/2 birdshot if you like. Remington just came out with the "Ultimate HD" ammo. It's what I use to hunt geese with. Load your HD shotgun with that.

LE has plenty of specialized ammo to meet their needs, but a shotgun loaded with buck is limited in that capacity--civilians and cops included.
 
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