Lieberman: Out! - McKinney: Out!

TheBluesMan

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http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/08/08/D8JCKRTO0.html
With 89 percent of precincts counted, Lamont led with 52 percent, or 127,786 votes, to Lieberman's 48 percent, or 119,867 votes. Turnout was projected at twice the norm for a primary.
With 68 percent of precincts reporting, Hank Johnson, the black former commissioner of DeKalb County, was ahead with 58 percent, or 25,112 votes, to McKinney's 42 percent, or 18,056 votes.

I'm ambivalent about the Lieberman result - Probably puts him in a better position to run for POTUS probably with McCain.

McKinney - Good riddance! Like a bad penny, she'll turn up again, though.
 
McKinney is indeed out! Lieberman OTOH will win as an independent but it is a win situation for the Republicans as the Democrats now have a civil was brewing in their own party!
 
I think the people of Georgia are better off with McKinney.{ Not her district mind you but Ga in general} She is a loony. Had absolutely no pull in Congress and never would. Who knows what here successor will be able to do, or who he may be able to influence.
 
Now now, let's not confuse primary voters, who count among them the moonbattiest of Democrat moonbats, with the general population of Connecticut.

Conneticutt has about a 35% Democrat registration. The turn out was 40%. Each rat got about 50%. That means of all voters, 40% of 35% voted and lamont got 50% of them. That's 7% of all voters in the state.
 
Johnson over McKinney -- Ok, so at this point I guess that I'm one of those "ABC" types: Anybody But Cynthia. I'm not thrilled by Johnson's platform, but at least he doesn't come across as an unstable tinfoil hat wearing lunatic. At least he doesn't seem to be an embarrassment to the people of his district and the state of Georgia in general. And at least he has demonstrated that he can be civil towards conservatives and work with them, given his appeal to conservatives for help in his campaign to unseat McKinney. I have hopes for him in a similar to what I had for Majette back when she unseated McKinney -- at least don't be a laughing stock. At least he appears to be sane, articulate, and someone who we can work with. Unfortunately, like last time, I rather suspect that we haven't seen the last of her Cynthia-ness. She'll be back next time around -- especially if Johnson pulls a Majette and decides to run for higher office, leaving a vacancy.

Lamont over Lieberman -- Much has been written about this one. I'm of the impression that this is a short term victory for the netroots gang, as they have seemingly successfully purged themselves of a Dem who refused to completely march lockstep with their narrow vision. But in the long term, this will come back to bite them, hard. For various reasons that have already been pointed out, I think that Lieberman has a really good chance at winning that race in the general election as an independent. And that will cost the Dems not only a seat in the Senate, but will be a big PR loss as well. The message they have sent is that it is not permissable to deviate even a little bit from the netroot, Deaniac line or be purged. And with that they divorce themselves even further from the center, moving even that much farther towards the fringe left. And that is the way to lose. I personally feel that this attitude and strategy of the Dem party and its netroots center of power has pretty well yanked defeat from the jaws of victory on this one -- they had a chance to tip the ballance of power in congress this general election, but the way that they treated Lieberman has just killed it. Centrist leaning Dems are liable to stay home now, and without their support I believe the Dems are gonna get killed at the polls.
 
Lieberman has a good chance in the general election as an independent. I wouldn't write him off so quickly.

Primaries are always about pandering to the rabid base. In Democratic primaries, the base pulls the candidate to the left. In Republican primaries, the base pulls the candidate to the right.
 
McKinney - got what she deserved. Good riddance! Like a bad penny, she'll turn up again, though.

The Liberman results seem to signal a sharp leftward move by the democratic party
 
The lesson of the CT primary is not new...

But politicians seem to need to learn it over and over again. If you go too far away from what your constituents want, whether you're ahead of them or behind, you'll be out of a job.

Like it or not, and right or wrong, Lieberman was the strongest, most public Democratic supporter of the war in Iraq. The voters in his state overwhelmingly oppose it. That's eventually going to get you fired, and it should.

--Shannon
 
If the opposition was "overwhelming," you'd think that more than 40% of the registered Democrats representing 35% of the electorate would have turned out.
 
Lieberman and Hitlery are opposed to their party, being pro-war. That makes them formidable candidates, IF and only if they can get past their primaries, since most people support this war in Iraq. Well, Lieberman doesn't need to, since he can run as independent for Senate (not potus though). Hitlery, OTOH, can NOT run effectively as independent for POTUS, so I think she and Lieberman too are up the creek as far as the 08 Prez primaries are concerned! Howard Dean is the closest thing to a genuine leader the Dems have put forward in years, and he didn't get very far. Shame it is...
 
You are aware that 40% turnout is astonishing for a primary with a 3-term incumbent? That's a sad commentary on the civic involvement of most Americans, but in context, it actually means the opposite of what you seem to think it does.

That turnout number is an indicator of a lot of PO'd CT Democrats. Joe shouldn't be surprised, and neither should anyone else. Chris Matthews, are you listening?? Cozying up to a President as polarizing as this one, from the other party, when he's got a 9% overall approval rating in your state, (among registered D's in CT, I doubt it's accurately measurable), costs you your cushy, perk-filled, work-90-days-a-year-for-whatever-salary-you-give-yourself job.

Do me a favor. Every morning, greet your boss with a hearty "#$%! You!!!". Tell me how long you stay employed. The people of CT are Joementum's boss. And that's exaactly how a lot of them felt. So they fired him.

And he clearly really, really wants to keep that job. I don't blame him, it's a darned good job. But I doubt he'll be rehired.

--Shannon
 
Liberman strikes me as one of the few true statesmen in the Senate who puts the welfare of the country ahead of the self-interest of his political party.

I guess this primary is a good reminder of how we value statesmen versus pandering politicians.
 
Liberman strikes me as one of the few true statesmen in the Senate who puts the welfare of the country ahead of the self-interest of his political party.

I guess this primary is a good reminder of how we value statesmen versus pandering politicians.

Well said GC.
I guess that's why he is one of the very few democrats that I can actually tolerate even if I don't agree with him................he's a statesman with a touch of old school class not seen much in either party.
 
Joe was ousted because he supported the war and got tied to Dubya. Those 2 factors brought down a 3-term incumbent who had enough clout to get the V.P. nomination just 6 years ago. And he lost to Ned Lamont; a practical nobody.
I'd think you folks would be a bit more concerned about that....
In fact, I know you are since you're always grumbling about the very real threat of a Dem takeover in the next couple cycles. My conclusion is that this is an exercise in self-deluded false bravado, nothing more.
Maybe you folks should be using Lieberman's carcass as the canary in the mine and try to convince your Republican representatives to distance themselves from Bush before it's too late.
Just a thought...
 
Joe was ousted because he supported the war and got tied to Dubya. Those 2 factors brought down a 3-term incumbent who had enough clout to get the V.P. nomination just 6 years ago. And he lost to Ned Lamont; a practical nobody.
I'd think you folks would be a bit more concerned about that....

Why exactly? He has been what everybody considered to be a "good" Democrat(no such thing:rolleyes: )by his own party EXCEPT for this 1 issue. It speaks volumes about the "supposed" tolerant party as to their agenda and farther left movement. This will ultimately give plenty of ammo to the Republicans as a civil war erupts in the Democratic party and they turn on each other.
Besides showing they are weak on defense and terrorism in general---they have now cut off their own noses to spite their face since Liberman will probably win as an independent and cost another seat.:p
 
He has been what everybody considered to be a "good" Democrat(no such thing )by his own party EXCEPT for this 1 issue.
Apparently the good people of Connecticut feel differently. ;)
Look, it may be "this one issue" but "this one issue" was apparently important enough to sink him.
AFA the Dems "moving left"...I dunno. You'd think they'd have kept McKinney if that was the case; she's as loony-left as they come.
There's something going on here. You can either heed the signs or you can sit around in 4 years kicking yourself. Whatever floats yer boat.
 
Look, it may be "this one issue" but "this one issue" was apparently important enough to sink him.


Which speaks volumes about the Democratic party at this point. The guy goes Democratic 99% of the time----so he gets the boot to a millionaire(surprise) with NO Political experience. Brilliant move---and then when Liberman wins and the seat is occupied by an Independent instead of a Democrat, that will look bright as well:rolleyes:
McKinney is a bona fide nut case---far left or not, people aren't going to be represented by the likes of her. Have at it Democrats, let the Civil war begin:D .
 
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