Joab, like I said before, I could not stand there and watch someone die if I sincerely thought that it was going to happen, BUT, if I thought the situation could be resolved without anyone dying, so much the better. I have no overbearing desire to "smoke the BG at all costs". Why do you think leos negotiate when potential hostages are involved? It is the same thing I am advocating.
And as far as me being a coward, I believe my service record speaks for itself there. And I honestly thought you were intelligent enough to have a rational discussion without resorting to such tactics. Such tactics are oft the last resort to a desperate man. Lets leave that stuff out, and try to educate new people here.
People need to realize that a ccw is not a get out of jail free card, nor is it a license to mow down bad guys at leisure. They need to understand what it is for, without filling their head with all this crap, and they need to realize that there will most likely be serious consequences involved in ANY shooting, justified or otherwise. Why not try to educate if you are up to the task?
As far as the man in the mall scenario, the guy had already opened fire, it was pretty much a no brainer, and YES, he is a hero for trying.
And mattro. Please come up with your own arguments. It is both disturbing and disgusting to see you riding Joab's leg that way. Educate yourself. This is not a schoolyard to yell "get em" or whatever at people being juvenile. It is a place people come to be educated so that if they find themselves in a similiar situation, they can know at least the basics of how to protect themselves. If you are unable to contribute to the discussion in a manner that is at least semi-responsible, please save yourself the embarrasment and stop now.
Believe me, we have alot of professional people here, and your reputation, based on your posts, is hard to hide from.
And as far as me being a coward, I believe my service record speaks for itself there. And I honestly thought you were intelligent enough to have a rational discussion without resorting to such tactics. Such tactics are oft the last resort to a desperate man. Lets leave that stuff out, and try to educate new people here.
People need to realize that a ccw is not a get out of jail free card, nor is it a license to mow down bad guys at leisure. They need to understand what it is for, without filling their head with all this crap, and they need to realize that there will most likely be serious consequences involved in ANY shooting, justified or otherwise. Why not try to educate if you are up to the task?
As far as the man in the mall scenario, the guy had already opened fire, it was pretty much a no brainer, and YES, he is a hero for trying.
And mattro. Please come up with your own arguments. It is both disturbing and disgusting to see you riding Joab's leg that way. Educate yourself. This is not a schoolyard to yell "get em" or whatever at people being juvenile. It is a place people come to be educated so that if they find themselves in a similiar situation, they can know at least the basics of how to protect themselves. If you are unable to contribute to the discussion in a manner that is at least semi-responsible, please save yourself the embarrasment and stop now.
Believe me, we have alot of professional people here, and your reputation, based on your posts, is hard to hide from.