Let me know what you would do in this situation
- Thread starter bones06
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Honestly? I could have fired in this situatiomn. I probably wouldn't have, nor would I have threatened such action. I would have dialed 911 to give LE the 'jump,' armed myself, and then protected my family, maybe I would have announced myself then. I would NOT leave my casa. Especially if there were kids and such there.
masonrox2547
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anyone eles thinking of panic room?
that would be awesome if every house these days had one or atleast that you could have one built in your house, witch is probbly possilbe, but in this situation i would say get a semi-auto hand gun if you dont already, maby a glock 17 with a 31 round clip and a plus 2 baseplate? then get a trigger lock and hide the gun ontop of something that your kids can not get to and like someone eles said keep the key to the trigger lock around your neck
btw srry for the bad spelling etc
that would be awesome if every house these days had one or atleast that you could have one built in your house, witch is probbly possilbe, but in this situation i would say get a semi-auto hand gun if you dont already, maby a glock 17 with a 31 round clip and a plus 2 baseplate? then get a trigger lock and hide the gun ontop of something that your kids can not get to and like someone eles said keep the key to the trigger lock around your neck
btw srry for the bad spelling etc
Well I wouldn't want them repelled Id want them arrested. So I would have simply walked inside and informed LE of a crime in progress.
Naturally with shotgun in hand, but with no intention to take them on.
It's just there in case the unforeseen transpires within the confines of my own home (as in inside my house)
Chasing after badguys with a gun at night is a recipe for disaster.
Naturally with shotgun in hand, but with no intention to take them on.
It's just there in case the unforeseen transpires within the confines of my own home (as in inside my house) Chasing after badguys with a gun at night is a recipe for disaster.
Definetly arm yourself first. You know the people are outside but who says what they are doing....they might be entering your house as your yelling out the window. Having your gun locked up or out in the open is a tough decision. I have two girls, 7 and 5, and they have never really showed interest in my handgun but I do keep it out 24/7 and it's always with me. When not on my person, usually somewhere up high so they can't reach it. My Dad got me involved with guns at an early age and i think this is the reasion why I never went looking for his guns to play with....the fad wears off. Alot of good points were made by the other members but just to elaborate on one, no offense. Rule IV....make sure you know what you are shooting at AND what is beyond it. I see too many handgun rounds go through way too many things. You don't want that round going through your target, then the drywall and into the next room where your kids are.
Lost Sheep
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Sorry, I cannot just cover
In that situation, I don't think I could just sit around and let three guys break into my neighbor's car and steal who know what all and just wait to file a police report and have near zero chance of restitution or recovery.
I know there is a risk in confronting three guys (known, could be more), but from the description given by bones06 in the original post, it appears the situation would have evaluated as low risk. So, 99% chance of letting three miscreants get away with their crime or 1% chance of escalating the situation? I will take the risk and stand up for my neighbor.
Having said that, there is no way I would fire on anyone unless there was a definite threat. And even if I were fired on, if they were just trying to get away, I would probably let them go. After all, they just added felony charges for when the police DO get there. And I may have saved my neighbor's car.
Would I attempt to apprehend them? No. Talk to them and try to get them to stick around, yes, depending on my (continuing) assessment of the threat level. Now, if my threat assessment changed, and I would never get far from cover, I would immediately change tactics.
Call me foolish, but this sounded like a crime of opportunity, kids just wandering around looking for trouble, not some hard-core bangers.
Lost Sheep.
In that situation, I don't think I could just sit around and let three guys break into my neighbor's car and steal who know what all and just wait to file a police report and have near zero chance of restitution or recovery.
I know there is a risk in confronting three guys (known, could be more), but from the description given by bones06 in the original post, it appears the situation would have evaluated as low risk. So, 99% chance of letting three miscreants get away with their crime or 1% chance of escalating the situation? I will take the risk and stand up for my neighbor.
Having said that, there is no way I would fire on anyone unless there was a definite threat. And even if I were fired on, if they were just trying to get away, I would probably let them go. After all, they just added felony charges for when the police DO get there. And I may have saved my neighbor's car.
Would I attempt to apprehend them? No. Talk to them and try to get them to stick around, yes, depending on my (continuing) assessment of the threat level. Now, if my threat assessment changed, and I would never get far from cover, I would immediately change tactics.
Call me foolish, but this sounded like a crime of opportunity, kids just wandering around looking for trouble, not some hard-core bangers.
Lost Sheep.
riggins_83
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That's counting the fact many people leave doors unlocked, windows open at night, use cheap locks, etc etc. If you setup your house well they'll need to make a lot of noise to get in.. and you can be ready for them.
Did you do the right thing, you ask?
Well, I watched First 48 last night, new episode, St. Louis.
It featured a young man who grabbed his gun, and ran outside to confront a man he thought was burglarizing his neighbors car. The man ran away, but our hero chased after him and fired some shots as the suspect hot- footed it down the road. A bullet hit him in the head.
I can't say how big of an issue the racial slur before the shooting will become. And, there wasn't any evidence that the slain man had even comitted a crime, though he had a criminal record.
The young man has been charged with 1st degree murder. His girlfriend, who covered for him, has been charged with hindering the investigation by lying to protect her boyfriend, and refusing to co-operate.. Neither had criminal records.
None of the shooter's friends who covered for him have been charged.
Well, I watched First 48 last night, new episode, St. Louis.
It featured a young man who grabbed his gun, and ran outside to confront a man he thought was burglarizing his neighbors car. The man ran away, but our hero chased after him and fired some shots as the suspect hot- footed it down the road. A bullet hit him in the head.
I can't say how big of an issue the racial slur before the shooting will become. And, there wasn't any evidence that the slain man had even comitted a crime, though he had a criminal record.
The young man has been charged with 1st degree murder. His girlfriend, who covered for him, has been charged with hindering the investigation by lying to protect her boyfriend, and refusing to co-operate.. Neither had criminal records.
None of the shooter's friends who covered for him have been charged.
bababooey32
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Bones
Lockdown the house, get armed, call police.
I might have tried to verbally engage them as you did, but only after steps 1 and 2 above.
That's a tactical mistake. You just made yourself into a big silouhette target! Kill interior lights and go to a window and peek out. If you must verbally engage, do it from a position where they cannot easily fire upon you.
Bluffing = bad. Don't say it if you can't actually do it.
Biggest mistake of all. The BGs know where you livae and might be ****** that you interrupted their "take". You just left your family at home alone while you go out to....what? Arrest them? What were you going to do? You weren't prepared to do anything (no gun, no cuffs).
I applaud your willingness to help your neighbors and "stand up" against criminals. Just be careful that you do it in a way that preserves your safety and that of your family FIRST!
Lockdown the house, get armed, call police.
I might have tried to verbally engage them as you did, but only after steps 1 and 2 above.
That's a tactical mistake. You just made yourself into a big silouhette target! Kill interior lights and go to a window and peek out. If you must verbally engage, do it from a position where they cannot easily fire upon you.
Bluffing = bad. Don't say it if you can't actually do it.
Biggest mistake of all. The BGs know where you livae and might be ****** that you interrupted their "take". You just left your family at home alone while you go out to....what? Arrest them? What were you going to do? You weren't prepared to do anything (no gun, no cuffs).
I applaud your willingness to help your neighbors and "stand up" against criminals. Just be careful that you do it in a way that preserves your safety and that of your family FIRST!
In the first place, if I am investigating an alarm at home, I will have a firearm either in my hand, or holstered on my hip, regardless of the time, ie. day or night.
In the second place, if I saw someone breaking into my car or my neighbors car, if they were not aware of my presence, I would try to call 911 and get the police enroute -without alerting them to my presence- or the fact that they had been "made"... while waiting and watching, I would try to be a "good witness" and make note of anything - descriptions, clothing, license numbers, etc that might help the police later. While watching, I would also be making a threat assessment - any weapons visible? age, size, fitness, how many of them are there, etc. of the perpetrators, etc.
If the perpetrators became aware of my presence at any point, I would have to make a split second decision of the best course of action, based on several factors: are weapons visible? are the perpetrators concealing something they don't want me to see (ie. possible weapons)? are they leaving or heading toward me?
Ideally when they became aware of my presence, I would secure myself in my home, barricade myself and maintain contact with 911 operator until police arrive. If the perpetrators rush toward me before I can withdraw and securely barricade myself, and depending on their specific actions and whether they had weapons and if so, what type and how many, I would have to make split second decisions, based on the factors present at the time, of whether my best option was to retreat and attempt to secure myself indoors or take cover and prepare to fight.
In the second place, if I saw someone breaking into my car or my neighbors car, if they were not aware of my presence, I would try to call 911 and get the police enroute -without alerting them to my presence- or the fact that they had been "made"... while waiting and watching, I would try to be a "good witness" and make note of anything - descriptions, clothing, license numbers, etc that might help the police later. While watching, I would also be making a threat assessment - any weapons visible? age, size, fitness, how many of them are there, etc. of the perpetrators, etc.
If the perpetrators became aware of my presence at any point, I would have to make a split second decision of the best course of action, based on several factors: are weapons visible? are the perpetrators concealing something they don't want me to see (ie. possible weapons)? are they leaving or heading toward me?
Ideally when they became aware of my presence, I would secure myself in my home, barricade myself and maintain contact with 911 operator until police arrive. If the perpetrators rush toward me before I can withdraw and securely barricade myself, and depending on their specific actions and whether they had weapons and if so, what type and how many, I would have to make split second decisions, based on the factors present at the time, of whether my best option was to retreat and attempt to secure myself indoors or take cover and prepare to fight.
LeopardCurDog
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A better way of keep the gun from the kids is to wear it around the house. An unloaded locked away gun is of no value.
phantom1984
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First off i have left my gun unlocked in the open when my kids were younger than yours (with me supervising of course) to teach them what it is and not to touch it. Teaching children about guns at an early age (what they can do so on and so forth) is the best way to prevent accidents in the home. No matter what the popular belief is about locking up ur guns If it is locked up you Wont have time to get to it if you need it. If it was me i wouldn't have gone after them especially if i was unarmed and if you shoot them with out fear of your life you will have a lot of legal problems.