"The people that like lee stuff always bash the other reloading tool makers."
Oh. Really?
I like Lee stuff. Use a lot of it.
But, the inference you've made is that if someone likes Lee products, they don't like anything from anything else and go out of their way to denigrate it.
Which, obviously, would include me, since I look very favorably on my Lee Classic Cast Turret press, my Lee powder measures, and my Lee dies.
So why don't you be a lamb and go back through my posts and find all of the posts where I categorically bash everything made by manufacturers other than Lee.
Aw... I'll be nice and save you the time you'd invest in a futile effort. I have, and use regularly, reloading products from Lyman, RCBS, Belding & Mull, Pacific, Dillon, etc. It all accompanies my Lee products in one big happy chorus.
I bash those products, Lee or otherwise, that I find to be poorly conceived, poorly designed, poorly manufactured, while you choose to paint with a broad brush. The egregious stupidity of such an overarching, incorrect, and insulting statement is actually a pretty good indication of your own personal prejudices against Lee products.
So unless you actually have something constructive to that DOESN'T include ad hominen attacks on what I suspect is a large portion of the rest of the membership here at TFL, kindly stay out of the discussion.