Learn To Shoot It

Now, did you take the time to explain stance, grip, and trigger pull? Fundamentals go hand in hand, there's more than one. And they are different for accuracy and speed.
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No, there wasn't enough time for that much of a lesson. He had to go to the next stage and I was on deck to shoot next.

Speed shooting is a combination of understanding how much you can get away with in terms of "bending" the fundamental rules of marksmanship and learning how to do the things you already know how to do slowly, quickly.

It's certainly true that they're different, but the underlying fundamentals stay the same.

Take a good grip & stance, get a good sight picture (notice I didn't say line up the sights) and control the gun while you operate the trigger.
 
There often isn't time to give the greenies a full shooting lesson, but if you can convince them to block those sights and press the trigger straight back, you're putting them way ahead of where they were.

Speed shooting is a combination of understanding how much you can get away with in terms of "bending" the fundamental rules of marksmanship and learning how to do the things you already know how to do slowly, quickly.

It's certainly true that they're different, but the underlying fundamentals stay the same.
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This is so true.

But I did want to point out that there are benefits to smoothing out a trigger, and to finding a gun that fits both the intended purpose and the shooter. Ergonomics can be overcome by good training and fundamentals, but ergos do matter.
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Very good and true as well. This is exactly why I shoot the VE series Sigmas just as well as a Glock, It fits me & the grip angle is right for me.

Dick, good for you- and don't get discouraged. Maximize your practice. Shoot slower and/or closer until your groups get down to 2-3 inches. Now try to apply each of the fundamentals, as precisely as you can, for each and every one of five shots in a row. I'll bet you see a marked improvement almost immediately. Resist the urge to shoot until you get tired or shaky... take less ammo to the range. Better to make 25 good shots than it is to burn 50 for the same number of hits.

Many good comments here! Thanks to all of you.
 
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That's an intresting point if view.

However, I just know deep down that I could shoot better of my 1911 was customized by the SA Custom Shop, drive better with an Aston Martin, Hit better with an ash wood baseball bat, rock harder with a Les Paul and run faster with a new pair of sneakers. I simply KNOW it!

LOL
 
I have a new hero

"I am somewhere between horrible and terrible, hoping to advance to bad."

I'll meet you there, some day, dickttx.

Mean time, got to resist this heresy and keep collecting new toys.
 
Yes, Jimmy, I have so far added the 617, the Ciener conversion unit, a High Standard Sport King with 2 barrels, a second Colt MKIII Trooper, and a brand new Colt Rail Gun--in less than a year. These and my other Trooper, Redhawk .41 mag, 6906 9mm, and Blackhawk .45 Colt are now supported by a new Lee Classic Turret with all the apertinances and Lee 4 die sets for all five calibers. Most of my guns I had acquired about 40 years ago, but had really never learned to shoot.
Now it is time to learn to shoot. This thread has probably given me more insight than anything I have came across in the past year.
 
A Sigma can shoot? Who would have thunk it? Had a buddy with a Sigma shooting 15" group at 15'. Let me have a go. Trigger was bad, but I got a solid 4" group at 15 yards; just using the basics on a weapon I had never fired before.
 
Resist the urge to shoot until you get tired or shaky... take less ammo to the range. Better to make 25 good shots than it is to burn 50 for the same number of hits.
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Your OP was a good one Sarge. I recently figured out a way to get the most education out of the fewest rounds when revolver shooting. Randomly load 2 or 3 rounds into the cylinder leaving the other chambers empty. Spin it without looking at it before you close. Then practice a draw and fire with a friend giving you the signal to draw, and DA fire through all six chambers before reholstering. This might be old news for the long time shooters here, my flinching has gone way down and I'm much better at maintaining sight picture using this method. Plus, a box of .357s lasts much longer when I'm shooting them so slowly.
 
That's a good training aid. I used it quite a bit when revolvers were THE duty gun. It will definitely bring out flinches from recoil anticipation.
 
What are these "sights" you people speak of?

My bullets hit this magic red dot that comes out the side of the grips.

I seem to remember my grandfather speaking of these "sight" things. Of course, he spoke of something called "personal responsibility" and being a good neighbor too.... Strange old bird, he was.

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Sarge...definitely one of the best written treatise on the basics of handgun shooting I've ever read. Moderators, this should be a stickie. I especially like the depiction of the sights as seen against a bullseye target. The front sight blade MUST be seen clearly and the target left a blur to get real accuracy anywhere beyond powder burn distance. Good post padnuh. Rod
 
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