I guess i better study up on how to pour my own projectiles & where to get the raw materials. As little as i get to use my lil sidelock pistol, i could probably afford to use copper balls, but i would be afraid of introducing another variable into the "make it go far & straight but don't blow up the barrel" equation without some solid guidance.
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Lead Bullet Ban in the works
- Thread starter Azguy
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Smokin Gun said:I was paid by this Country to to Protect it from it's enemies foreign and domestic...I swore an oath to keep us free and protect the Constituton.
And for that I SALUTE YOU!
Sadly, it has become somewhat of a joke that these same politicians who swear that same oath within 15 minutes are trying to circumvent and destroy it.
Besides y'all...you don't have to ban lead. All you have to do is create an "environmental use" tax that makes the bullets cost 100x more than they do today. The outcome is the same.
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Sgt.Saputo
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Ban all lead bullets, that's wishful thinking. Next it will be "ban all rubber tires" or "Ban all yellow cheese". They knwo it's to hard to ban firearms so they will just try banning them piece by piece. Not gonna happen.
okiefarmer
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Makes about as much sense as the EPA's effort to ban dust on the farm. Yes, they want dust to be considered hazardous and a finable offense if they see it.
I would make a bet that no one in the EPA has ever gone hungry in their lives, as that is likely the first occurence that will take place if farm dust is outlawed. Not many crops grown without it.
I would make a bet that no one in the EPA has ever gone hungry in their lives, as that is likely the first occurence that will take place if farm dust is outlawed. Not many crops grown without it.
That would mean the the military and law enforcement couldn't use lead bullets either.
Military is already in the process of switching to lead free. That is being driven primarily from the large amounts of lead that accumulates at the firing ranges.
Those "lead free" efforts with Bismuth-Tin bullets will fail just as previous attempts have.Military is already in the process of switching to lead free. That is being driven primarily from the large amounts of lead that accumulates at the firing ranges.
Bismuth-Tin is LESS environmentally friendly than lead. Calculate the environmental costs of mining Bismuth and Tin, both of which is quite high, and lead comes out as the more environmentally friendly choice.
Bismuth is actually quite scarce, only about 8 times as abundant as gold. So I have no idea where the hell they are getting the supply.
Looking at current metal prices, this is the best info I could find:
Lead is selling for about $1,600 a ton
Basic steel is selling for about $415 a ton.
Copper is selling for about $6,300 a ton
Tin is selling for about $17,000 a ton
Bismuth is selling for about $16,000 a ton.
The supply of Bismuth is heavily dependent on recycling old Bismuth. Start using it like this in bullets on a massive scale and the price is going to greatly increase as demand outstrips supply.
Then again, watermellons don't care about whether something is good for the environment. As long as it "feels good" it must be right.
Once the ammo bills start piling up lead is gonna come back VERY quickly.