Laser Grips For a Carry Revolver

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What brand would you suggest?

Also is it hard to install them properly so they are sighted in correctly? Are they worth the money for a self defense weapon??
 
I think they are a bad joke. When I have seen people using them, they are about a foot off the POA/POI. A gadget that is as useful as hair in a can.
 
Lasers in general are a bad idea with a lot of good merit.
If - and it's a big IF - you use them to enhance your ability and hone your skills, they can be great. If you need them or subsitute using them for developing good natural technique, they are a terrible idea.
 
I think most people get them to try to make up for their lack of practice. Their the magic answer I mean they work in the movies so they will work for me. won't they? :eek:
 
A laser aiming device is an excellent aid for practicing trigger control, point shooting, and proper aim with iron sights. It is inappropriate as the primary means of aiming. My suggestion is to focus on the sight picture, adjusting the laser dot to apppear slightly above it at your range. For this purpose, I prefer lasers that mount directly under the barrel. For laser grips, Crimson Trace appears to lead in quality.
 
As stated above, they are a gimmick most often purchased by folks who don't know how to use iron sights. The only time I found them even partially useful was while wearing night vision, and that was on an MP5.
 
For a carry revolver, go with the Crimson Trace. I have them on my 340PD.

All these guys who say lasers are a joke are your old school, traditionalists. I have no question they all can hit a fly off a target 100 yds away. But thats standing still in a range, not moving, and not tons of adrenaline pumping, and possibly multiple attackers.

But, in the dark possibly while running, both targets moving, who the hell cares how you sight your attacker?

I guarantee your groups are way tighter with the laser than without, try it with the lights down, or try it around a corner. If they help you shoot more accurately, why not use them? Most of these guys who discredit lasers are doing so because they think that by using them they are being wussies. Kinda like most harley riders think about wearing helmets. They are more against the IDEA of lasers, rather than how they work.

Notice none of them said, "oh those things dont work" ..cause they do. Of course you still need to practice trigger control, etc. My advice is, try someone elses's or go to a range that has them on one of their guns and try it out.

Yes they are easy to install and sight up. I practiced with my laser on, and off and with the laser on, no doubt my groups were alot tighter.

I am a newbie, just getting into shooting and I ask alot of advice on here. But remember shooters are extremely biased people, everyone swears by different things. My advice is use what works for you. Happy shooting!
 
You know, I can't comment on them specifically for CCW.
However, I've got them on my Ruger SP101 .357 snub, which is my nightstand gun.

I just don't think you can get any better for an unwanted middle of the night visitor than the original point and click interface of a revolver, coupled with the no-guess effectiveness of a laser dancing COM under the goblin's chin. :eek:
 
Target focused aiming
When you don't have time or a chance to get into a "classic" weaver stance
low light/ adrenaline/ normal human reaction to look at the threat not the sights
tunnel vision during stress
I recommend them

 
I've had pistols for 50 years. When my eyes started getting bad, I went from sight shooting to point shooting for SD. My confidence range was limited to about 5-7 yards. And I essentially stopped going to the range as it was no fun any more.

With Crimson Trace, I'm back to an effective range 15-20 yards for SD; I go to the range for practice regularly, and (after a lot of practice) I even have confidence to shoot those blurry sights with laser off.

With CT laser, I can put 17 quick shots from my BHP in a 5 inch circle at 10 yards......... shooting from my hip. I think that's neat for an old fart - and indicative of the extra capability that CT's provide.
 
Hey Bubby, thanks for that testimony. I find it very suprising someone who has been shooting for 50 years would be willing to try something new like a laser. Good for you.

Also I was taught to shoot from the hip (point shoot) from my CCW instructor. There is really no better way in a really close confrontation. With the laser, you will be able to aim right for his aorta with ease. Supposedly this is what Navy Seals are taught to do, the point shooting that is.

If Bubby's testimony isnt proof that they work, I dont know what is. :)
 
Notice none of them said, "oh those things dont work" ..cause they do.
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Sure they work,,right up to the time that they quit. Least that's what mine did. Thing up and quit working. Thankfully I don't *need* it.
 
Hip shooting should only be used for self defense if the assailant is within arm's reach and you can not bring your weapon up to eye level.

The distant point shooting techniques (pistols and smg) taught in the military are for offensive actions, mostly while wearing masks and night vision, when you can not focus on the weapon sights.

Lasers have a taboo about them because the media usually associats them with offensive actions by the military, SWAT or the bad guys. Your defensive posture (equipment and training) should stress that you are stopping the bad guy from getting to you, not that you are reaching out to get them.

I agree with the benefits of using lasers as training aids, but if you can not see the sights on a firearm, your money might be better spent on optical care. If you tell the court that you were using a laser because of failing eyesight, they may question your ability to judge the entire situation at extended ranges.
 
Optical care is great, but what happens if you can't get to your specs in the middle of the night, or the glasses are knocked off.

My nightstand gun has had an internal laser for years, best bet if I am awakened at 3 AM and have too react quickly. It is accurate enough in the confines of my home.

It was recommended by a friend who is retired LEO, I was skeptical at first but now realize the value

Funny thing, it has had the same battery since 1997, still works!

I am considering a Crimson trace for my carry gun.
 
That guy hitting a foot off the mark with a laser either didn't dial it in or used different ammo from what it was dialed in for to be that far off. Thats like saying scopes don't work with different ammo so don't work. Or maybe he was flinching. ;)

My G21 laser isn't a one hole magical bullseye maker or anything like that but it works and works well. Anyhting that can help you control your shots in a low light situation is a good thing. (If you can afford it!)
 
KurtC: One of the most common eye degenerations with age is weakening of close focus. I can focus quite well at long distance. As a matter of fact, since the laser use allows focusing on the single plane of the Bad Guy rather than the front sight, I am better aware of the tactical situation with the laser.
 
There are some real junk lasers out there, cheap, that can give 'em all a bad rep. Crimson Trace ain't one of 'em.

Good ones do have their place - for training and/or self defense.
 
Sure they work,,right up to the time that they quit. Least that's what mine did. Thing up and quit working. Thankfully I don't *need* it.
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Hal,

I would ask if these were Crimson Trace lasers? If so have you called them? In my experience, Crimson Trace is very good about taking care of their product when problems arise. I deal with them on a day to day basis as we are one of their largest sellers.

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