tahunua001 said:
there is no such that as lake city arsenal either and bill clinton made it illegal to sell either ammo or weapons that are currently standard issue to civilians.
ATK is a company that runs the Lake City Ammunition plant(which is government owned) and they manufacture all their 5.56mm brass there.
since it is only illegal to sell live ammunition to civilians ATK ships the components to two of their subsidiaries(American Eagle and Federal) where they put the primers back in, remeasure the powder and reseat the bullets. they then turn around and sell it as XM193 instead of the military designation M193. if you do find surplus it's been on the market since before the Clinton administration. and most of the faulty lake city brass is reloads.
it would not be legal for ATK to turn around and sell contract overflow or surplus or even out of spec ammo to the general public.
Ok Tahunua001 i almost did not post this reply because i thought who cares what he thinks, but i changed my mind because some one on here is going to read your misinformation and unchecked facts, and think it is fact, when it is not. So i will give people the information and facts i have researched, and let them make up there own minds. Tahunua001 iv educated you before, as many many others have had to do in the past, as you remember it was on the difference between a CZ-75 and a Beretta 92/M9, and im going to have to do it again, so here goes. First off; i dont no what you mean when you say.
tahunua001 said:
there is no such that as lake city arsenal either.
There is such as that. I think your hang up is that i called it an arsenal, but it is the definition an arsenal.
TheFreeDictionary said:
ar·se·nal (ärs-nl)
n.
1. A governmental establishment for the storing, development, manufacturing, testing, or repairing of arms, ammunition, and other war materiel.
2. A stock of weapons.
3. A store or supply: an arsenal of retorts.
Besides that before Lake City Ammunition plant was called a plant it was called an arsenal, back when Remington was still running the place. Second; I would never ever stand up for the Clinton administration, but it has always been illegal to sell weapons that are currently standard issue to civilians, that was not something they came up with. Third; ATK does now run the plant for the government, and Federal is one of there subsidiaries, American Eagle is a brand name for Federal. But Federal does not take the LC 5.56 brass and,
tahunua001 said:
put the primers back in, remeasure the powder and reseat the bullets. they then turn around and sell it as XM193.
that is not true at all. The ammo wether it is 5.56 XM855 or 5.56 XM193, they are both made at the Lake City Ammunition Plant, it is just packaged and distributed by Federal. I called Federal and made sure of that here is there #1-800-831-0850 if you're interested. Lastly; all though LC does not sell directly to the public, there is nothing illegal about them selling ammo to the public through there subsidiaries like Federal. So there you go lesson learned, next time check your facts before you post, and dont worry so much about getting your post count up, it is more important to give good information, and help people on here, than give misinformation and unchecked facts. Take your own advice.
tahunua001 said:
well, looks like I've been hoodwinked. I guess next time I'll verify my information before I put such blatantly ignorant information out to others.
Keep that in mind and you will do your self and everyone on here a great service, Thanks.
