Ladies and gentlemen...John Edwards

BTW, I'm strongly, wholeheartedly in favor of stem-cell research, for disease-cure purposes, yes from fetuses, who are already DEAD mind you.
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Beyond what the democrats keep saying, Bush has not banned using fetuses for stem-cell research. He has banned the using of federal money to fund any research using aborted fetuses.

In her new book How to Talk to a Liberal (If You Must), Ann Coulter makes an interesting point...
If leading scientists believed that fetal stem-cell research would prove to be so fruitful in curing Alzheimer's, why is the private money not pouring in hand over fist? Do you realize how many billions a cure for Alzheimer's would be worth, let alone all the other cures some are claiming fetal stem-cell research would lead to?
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Any civilization that fails to protect its future generations, and uses them instead as meat to stave off its hunger for slightly longer life, cannot long endure.
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Especially when you consider that - so far - there have been ZERO successes with using stem cells from embryos for medical purposes. So profound has been the lack of success with embryonic stem cells that SOME researchers have said it's not likely to EVER happen - there are large hurdles that may never be overcome.

There have been some wonderful successes, though. All from stem cells harvested from adults or from umbilical cords.

So why the big push to fund research down what seems to be a blind alley when there is a very promising highway right next door?


Sorta makes you wonder....
 
I heard something on the radio this morning but have never seen them . I don't live in NC . It seems that Lawyer Edwards had 2 billboards there . One said :" Feeling Poorly ? Let Me Sue Your Doctor". The other said "You Might Have Been Hurt At Work And Don't Even Know It". Both had instructions on how to contact him . This , if it is true , should be spread throughout the land as swiftly as possible .
 
If it was a "flat out LIE" John Edwards would be completely without a nickle to his name. John Edwards made his multi-millions suing on behalf of parents of children with cerebral palsy. He would sue the OB/GYNs that had the misfortune to deliver such afflicted children. Do you know what causes cerebral palsy? Because modern medical science sure doesn't yet. But somehow Johnny Boy got his clients big bucks. Gee, you think he blamed the child's affliction on "medical mistakes"?
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Fred, this is a tough area, because the REST of the world knows a lot about childbirth that American doctors don't know. We have a very serious case of NIH Syndrome. (Not Invented Here) Check the numbers on how we rate against the rest of the world for maternal & infant health in childbirth. Last time I looked, we ranked TWENTY SEVENTH! There were 3rd world countries ahead of us! :eek:

A large part of that is our arrogance in assuming that only America knows how to do medicine. We simply refuse to pay attention to research done overseas. For example, Canada & Europe know how to prevent and cure toxemia, but it's a great mystery in America. We just don't know what causes it or how to prevent it, and we're not interested in researching it. So women die needlessly. Yet it's as simple as nutrition. Been proven quite thoroughly.

So when Kerry argues that cerebral palsey is due to medical mistakes, he's actually on pretty good ground. Don't assume that EVERYTHING he says is false just because he's a scum sucking vermin.

That's not to defend him - he's every bit the slime you've pointed out. He's gotten rich on other people's sufferening, and he has NOT improved the medical system - quite the contrary.

The system is definitely broken, and Kerry is part of the problem.
 
Check the numbers on how we rate against the rest of the world for maternal & infant health in childbirth.
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And check the numbers on how we rate in terms of crack-er...um "prostitutes" per capita, or better yet check the numbers on how many men in those countries abuse drugs and alcohol to the point that they irrepairably damage their own sperm, thus creating fetal-alcohol babies by the score. Then there are the folks who spend their college years having sex with everything in sight, catching all of the fashionable diseases, who subsequently settle down in the suburbs and expect to have normal children. Not gonna happen. Or how about the women who wait until they are 45 to have kids? All of the nutritional advice on Earth isn't going to make that situation pretty.

But for most folks in this country there is no need to hold the (let's euphemistically call them parents) responsible for their part in the child's birth condition. Somehow "medical mistakes" are to blame when the frat "Funnel King" marries the sorority "Xtasy Queen", and little junior is born with two heads. I know they're selling, but I'm not buying. Thanks anyway.

Now someday, if I ever see a court transcript where they ask the father of one of these kids "Is it true you injected gallons of steroids as a teenager?", or if they ask "Is it true you slept with every pass-around skank on campus?" or "Mrs. Bulemia, did you eat anything other than PowerBars + NutraSlim while you chain smoked your way through your pregnancy?" before the jury is sent out, then I will concede your relatively valid point.

Right now people like Edwards simply count on the greed and envy in the hearts of dolts in backwater jurisdictions to blame the mean ol' corporations, whoever they are. :rolleyes: :barf:
 
It's not that simple, Fred. The reality is that our OBs are doing a lot of unneccsary damage.


And it's also true that people like Kerry are doing even MORE. Part of the damage the OBs do is the insane rate of C-sections. It OUGHT to be somewhere south of 5%, but it's more like 20% and in some places 30%. PART of that is due to fear of lawsuits.
 
So which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Funny, I don't see Edwards, or Kerry, or Hildebeast, or any liberal that I am aware of running off to these countries for their medical procedures. Oddly enough I do see world leaders coming here for our horribly negligence ridden treatments.

Curiouser and curiouser. :rolleyes:
 
We're great at fixing broke things. We're NOT good at keeping people healthy.

And we're not good at delivering babies.
 
Fred, why do you think they come here? The answer is, it's because our STANDARD OF CARE is high - the REASON our standard of care is high is because our negligence system (the court system) holds docs to a high standard. If you want to be part of the race to the bottom to get third-world country health care, the first thing on the to-do list is pass "tort reform".
 
Well I'm glad you brought up that it's not that simple, because you are right, it's not.
We're great at fixing broke things.
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In fact we are the best that ever was.
We're NOT good at keeping people healthy.
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Because we live in the most self-indulgent society that the world has ever known.
And we're not good at delivering babies.
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I think that if we honestly compared the incidence (per capita) of drug/alcohol abuse, STD exposure, single-parent pre-natal difficulties, over-eating/bad eating habits [including adolescent/early adulthood anorexia/bulemia], work stress while pregnant, sedentary lifestyle, late-life pregnancy and self-indulgent indifference to the "fetus" among Americans to the incidence of same among the countries we are being compared to in these so-called studies, we would find that the variable control for these so-called studies is virtually non-existent.

A lot of American guys think they can drink a twelve-pack every night, and not have their child be born with birth defects. They are wrong. A lot of American women think they can have their first child at 38, and not have the child suffer for it. They too are wrong. It can be done, but the child is the person that will pay.

As much as I despise European culture, when it comes to simple things like not doing Xtasy all night every night for 5-6 years before having a baby, they beat us hands down.

And as for nutrition, can anyone that lives in this country (the one country most obsessed with producing health and nutrition oriented books/magazines/multi-media for general consumption than any other I am aware of) honestly say they aren't aware that they should follow easily available guidlines for good pre-natal health? A doctor can (and does in my experience) give the patient the necessary information, but I can't expect the doctor to follow the patient around and see to it that they follow their advice.
 
The life span of a North American human is approximately 75-80 years.

The average life span of a Sub-Saharan African human is under 55 years.

With 20+ more years to live, North American humans have a chance of getting sick more than Sub-Saharan African humans, but that doesn't mean that healthcare in Africa is better than in North America because they get sick less often, or have fewer C-sections. It's all in how you look at it.

http://www.worldpolicy.org/globalrights/econrights/maps-life.html
 
I'm not talking about health care in general, I'm talking about childbirth only.

The fact is, we're doing a lousy job. Forget the third world countries and just compare us with western nations with comparable wealth. We look even worse.


The lawyers are part of the problem - their lawsuits drive more C-sections than medical reasons do. But our arrogance about how good we are is also part of the problem.
 
We have a good measure here in Oregon that will be voted on.
Caps "pain and suffering" award to $500,000. This does NOT apply to other expenses to the victem i.e. wheelchair ramps, missed wages, prosthetics, etc...this also does NOT apply to wrongful deaths.
Good measure, I'm voting yes on it!
 
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