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Koolminx,

You clearly have no idea what conditions some of us hunt under. I'm sorry if sitting in a tree stand or using attractant (not bait) isn't real hunting to you. Some of have no choice. Yes, we do hunt 20 acre pieces of land, and smaller. Yes we do come home without animals, more often than not. MUCH more often than not. No, many of us do not have a choice, for any number of reasons. No, it's not a matter of being lazy or not knowing how to hunt. If you can't or won't understand that then I feel no further obligation to explain it to you. That's the end of my "weak excuses".
 
I'm taking my 8yr old son this year. I thought maybe the koolaid will stop the deer long enough to give my boy a good shot. We hunt on 100 acres of land with 5 other people and i dont always bait. It's all pine so the deer dont stop moving. I was just wondering if the koolaid would slow them down or scare them off because of the fake fruity smell. Corn doesn't work because the eat it at night and that doesn't do us any good.
 
O.k. i got another one. I live in Arkansas and have always heard salt was only useful in the summer, that in the winter the deer wouldn't touch it.
 
Gotta agree with Art on this one. Come to the Southeast and the territory (and deer behavior) are quite different. I've talked with people from out West and up North who swear that the deer down here are more timid than anything they've encountered in their home states. Add to this the fact that "long range" shots on deer around here are 100 yards. I've often heard deer no more than 150 feet away and been unable to get a clear shot due to all the dang pine trees and grass. This is brush country. You aren't staking out rolling plains and making 500 yard shots.

Add to this the wildfire of subdivisions we experienced thanks to some bad hurricane seasons (03 and 04 saw many Florida residents and Katrina victims moving to southern GA), and you have issues. This is before you look at the fact that the "greater Atlanta area" now takes up a third of the state. Leases are impossible to find these days. Everyone that has one is holding onto it. Same goes for large tracts of land. This massive urban sprawl doesn't help with deer attitudes.
 
You guy's got it all wrong... I got my answer from Peetza and from treefarmer.

Fisherman, I never said anyone should feel compelled to do anything. I simply strongly stated a desire to have a valid reason for baiting which I got from two and a half reliable sources...

Mclure, I am NOT anti baiting, I simply sought an explanation I could live with.

Peetza, your second post wasn't necessary, (If I was CLEAR on the matter I would not have asked the question.......) and I am NOT attacking the baiters whether they're beginners or Masters!
I too (yes the mighty still hunter me) go home with nothing often enough, but I hunt differently than you and maybe that's why. I still think it's cheating, but that's just my opinion... I also never said it was lazy. {it is but I didn't say it... ;)}

People in Florida that have no land larger than a few acres, I feel sorry for you... {How can you hunt in that humidity anyway... :eek:}

Art Eatman, If I don't see Bambi I go to where I DO see Bambi, or, I don't get to shoot Bambi... Not so hard to understand. Plus, I've hunted in the treeless deserts of Utah (identical to Texas but not as hot) and bagged my game, It's not hard at all if one is persistent. I've never had a deer wave at me with anything but their tails as they are departing the area when I make a mistake in the field...



That is all. I reckon that some of you would never get a deer were it not for bait, just like some people will never catch a fish without Bait {I fly fish... it's baitless, and that makes me bette than you! Ha! ;)} It's all come down to territorial circumstances. I get it now.

later :)

K
 
koolminx, it's the "go to" that's a problem for many. Some can afford it; some can't. Right now, even hunting guides are wishing there were more go-to folks. What's a non-resident license cost in Utah?

So a guy makes his house/land payment, pays the utilities, feeds and clothes the wife and kids--and by baiting, has some deer meat to eat. Better, maybe, than going to the bank to borrow the $2,000 to get in on a hunt deal. It's certainly not the best hunting there is, but it sure beats store-bought. :)
 
Art, I GET IT:D


I am a military spouse, and I'm a D.A.V. and I'm poor as a coyote ugly hooker... I have GO TO issues even with fishing, I can't go more than a half hour from home to fish which really get's on my nerves, but I'll not resort to Snagging them just to have food on the table.
I don't have the $ or time to go hunting out on the peninsula or in the mountains for more than a short weekend. So I rarely get my game I'm hunting...

I've never spent $ on a hunt with a guide, but, as young man I did guide work in Utah for Cougar, Bear and Elk. Never used bait but did put a LOT of work in spotting in the off season, but you don't go cougar or bear hunting for food. Ever, that's a portion of the hunt that's simply a sport, in that state.

I never overtly badmouthed baiters :), but I in my own opinion (and this is where I am going to get in trouble) cannot consider hunting with bait a skill.

I see no hunting skills being employed other than standing still... It's like tree hunters back east. I've walked directly in front of hundreds of them without being spotted when hunting Maryland... Why do they sit in a tree? ?? I have no clue... I tried it with a friend for about a hour... That was the stupidest feeling I ever had... I'm GLAD that there are people that do it because that leaves me more room to hunt without having to duck under some dude's rifle barrel... :)

I'm NOT a hater. I just had my curiosities about baiting... Which have been answered very thoroughly for the most part.

Now come at me about my dislike for tree sitters :) he he he... ;) ;) This thread is fun!
 
Why do I sit in a tree because on the ground I’m lucky if I can see 30 yds in the tree I can see close to a 100yds. Its the same reason most easterners use slug guns and 45/70 we dont have many 500 yd shots. It also helps you from not being see and to get your sent above their noses. While you cant understand it there are reasons hunting has developed the way it has. You said there is no skill involved and you felt stupid well I think its because you haven’t developed patience. Now try sitting in that tree from hours while trying not to freeze to death.
 
You said there is no skill involved and you felt stupid well I think its because you haven’t developed patience. Now try sitting in that tree from hours while trying not to freeze to death.
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I KNOW it's hard to not Freeze while in a tree stand! I also understand hunting in Brush and thick forests. It takes patience and cunning... {no lingual skills necessary;)}

I did feel dumb, and I know it is easier to see Etc. I've been to those woods and hunted those forests.

Being ex military and a military spouse takes me many places that's why I have so many hunts in other states without having to use a guide or an outfitter service. They run into the thousands of dollars which I've never had...

I wish you all a big bag of game this year and henceforth.

Maybe I'll try baiting... If it's legal in my state...
 
I can sneak up on the edge of a bean field and shoot a deer standing out in it without using a stand. I must be a great hunter.
 
And the last mention of experience with Kool-Aid as an attractant or cover scent occurred how many post back?:rolleyes:

wee bit o' thread veer?
Brent
 
Its the same reason most easterners use slug guns and 45/70 we dont have many 500 yd shots.
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hmmmmm, maybe someone should tell Kenny Jarret that about his "bean field" rifles.... ;)

While I grew up in the East, and have now returned, I never hunted until I lived out West, where many weekends were spent driving hours to the area you hoped you would draw a tag for looking for deer. There weren't any trees to hunt from, but there were mountains where you could glass canyons, watch springs and seeps for track, maybe see some coming from an isolated alfalfa farm. In NV, if you were caught baiting, you were going to jail and losing your truck, gun and everything else, so I wouldn't know if kool-aid would work or not (how's THAT for topic re-veering, Brent ;)).

I was always told by the old timers that a proper hunt involved LOTS of walking, glassing, and really knowing the wind. While I realize here in the East, and especially the South, things are different, I don't know that I could sit in a stand watching a food plot I spent $$$$$ and time on just to get a deer. Frankly, I prefer moose, elk or antelope over venison anyway.

To each their own - as long as it is legal, responsible and ethical, then go for it
 
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