Kimber eclipse custom 2 question?

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trucker3573

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I just picked this gun up yesterday in 10mm. I also have a glock 20. My question is, I know the stock glock barrel will not shoot the heavy leadcast loads accurately. What about the kimber? Will i need an aftermarket barrel for this gun as well?
 
I just picked this gun up yesterday in 10mm. I also have a glock 20. My question is, I know the stock glock barrel will not shoot the heavy leadcast loads accurately. What about the kimber? Will i need an aftermarket barrel for this gun as well?
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I've got a 10mm Kimber Eclipse Custom II. I've never shot lead in it, but I don't think there are any ammo restrictions for that gun. I don't have any Glocks, but I think I've heard that the Glock has a polygonal barrel (not a rifled barrel), and that is the reason for the lead restriction. The Kimber barrel is rifled.
 
The kimber has a traditional rifled barrel so you are good to go with lead bullets. Just might be a little more involved cleaning wise. You should post a report on how the kimber shoots and how you like it
 
Ran 100 rnds through it today. The gun is super comfortable and I was amazed at my 15 yard groups. That is where the good ends for now. I know they say 4 to 500 rndd for break in but I had a good 8 FTF. All but one were on the last round in the magazine. Not sure if it is a mag issue or just a break in issue. The stock mag does have the weakest spring of any gun i own. I dont know if that has anything to do with it. I honestly expected it to run a little better. I have a 500 xds....a 400 lc9s...and a 500 dollar glock 20 and have not had a single failure on any of the cheaper guns. Not really sure this high dollar weapon is worth the extra coin. The cheaper guns functions 100%. Time will tell as I put more rounds through it. I will admit I shoot it more accurately than my glock 20 though.
 
lead

Lead bullets perform best when they are matched with their respective velocities.

The BHN scale describes the "hardness" the lead bullet has and the amount of antimony mixed with the lead when forming the bullets.

Faster velocities require harder lead bullets and slower velocities require softer lead bullets.
 
Trucker3573 said:
The stock mag does have the weakest spring of any gun i own.
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Does your mag have the little bump on the (straight) follower, or is it the rounded-follower version? When I bought mine, they shipped with the rounded-follower 8-round mags (made by Metalform, with Kimber's name on them). About a year ago, they switched to the straight, bumped-follower 9-round version (made by Checkmate, with Kimber's name on them). The Checkmates have a stiffer spring that the Metalforms. I switched to the Checkmates a couple of years ago, but I only load them to 8 rounds.

I had lots of jams with mine, and had lots of work done to try to make it reliable, because I liked everything else about it more than any other 1911. I think the reliability after the last work is less than 1% failure rate (shooting my DoubleTap carry rounds exclusively), but I won't know how much lower (if any) the failure rate is until I've shot it a good bit more.

You might try buying one Metalform mag (or one Checkmate mag, if that;s the one you don't currently have), and see if it runs better for you. Your failure rate is WAY too high (obviously). A common feeding problem is a too-tight (or badly shaped) extractor.

I finally gave up on Kimber's ability or willingness to fix mine, and started using local gunsmiths. My third (and hopefully last) gunsmith is the one who has finally gotten mine running pretty well.
 
Try different mags . Kimber mags seem to be trash . Lots of reports changed mags and pistol runs great. Some change mag spring to stiffer and have same results.
 
What is another good aftermarket mag for this model gun? Sorry I am kind of an idiot on all this firearm stuff. More of an archery buff..lol
 
Here is the mag that came with my gun. I am wondering if it is broke? Is the left side of the follower supposed to look like that?



 
Trucker3573 said:
Here is the mag that came with my gun. I am wondering if it is broke? Is the left side of the follower supposed to look like that?
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That's the Checkmate (with Kimber's name on it), and the follower is supposed to be shaped like that (non-symmetrical). I ordered and tried the new Kimber (Checkmate with Kimber's name) once, and got a fail-to-lockback after the last round ... never had that with my mags bought directly from Checkmate. I'd recommend ordering one Metalform mag and trying that. I'd also recommend ordering one mag directly from Checkmate, just in case the one with Kimber's name is somehow different. And also try loading your existing Checkmate mag to only 8 rounds. I didn't like the Tripps at all ... maybe they'll work for you, though.
 
Last-round feed failures are usually down to a weak mag spring.
I've used Colt and Metalform 8-rounders, and a Check-Mate 9-rounder, and no issues with any of them, other than the Check-Mate not being a "reloadable" nine rounds; you can store nine in the mag, but you can't lock the mag in place with the slide forward.
"Break-in" is more about confirming whether or not the gun is any good, than about the gun changing its tune over time. You've already shot yours enough to determine that you need a different mag.
 
The follower pushes the slide lock up on the last round. The mag spring may be week or the follower might need to be tweeked a bit to contact the slide lock. With the gun empty (double check)insert the empty mag and look through the breech as you cycle the slide back by hand. Is the follower hitting the slide lock? Does it lock open when cycling by hand? If yes to the above 2 questions than you may need to go on Wolf Springs and order a couple of mag springs. If no then you likely need to tweek the follower until it pushes the slide lock up properly.
The 1 other feed failure you had was likely a break in issue with the new gun. Give it a good cleaning and go back out and run it some more. If it continues its likely a issue with the mag lips.
My kimber mags (9mm) worked 100% and the Wilson 10rnd mags I bought had some problems until I cleaned up the follower. Mags are the usual suspect with feeding issues.
 
I have this gun in .45ACP. I have had the same last round fail to feed with the factory mag. The mags I bought to replace it do not have this issue. I shoot lots of lead. I plunk test each round to assure fit. The rifling needed to be relieved a little for 230gr. RN bullets, but after about 1800 or so cast Rn's, I don't have any other issues. I also shoot lots of plated.
 
Plunk test: Drop rounds into the upended barrel; they should drop all the way to the end of the chamber with a "plunk" as the case mouth hits the end of the chamber, then when you turn the barrel over, muzzle up, the round should fall back out again from gravity.
 
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