Killing the mentally retarded should be stopped.
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It's a bit late for debate NOW.
~~ZzzzaaaaaaPPPP!!!!~~ and away he went!
But that's ok...He's a born-again christian!
[[small 'c' intentional]]
Aren't ALL the killers and murderers born again right before it's FRYIN' time?
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~~ZzzzaaaaaaPPPP!!!!~~ and away he went!
But that's ok...He's a born-again christian!
[[small 'c' intentional]]
Aren't ALL the killers and murderers born again right before it's FRYIN' time?
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Satanta, the Whitebear
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My Disability petition: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/DisbHelp/petition.html
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My damn dog knows right from wrong.
Battler you da man.
TMoney maybe he will catch the barron he will need around 100 (98?). (Manfried von Richthofen?)
IQ shouldnt matter as mine is going down on a daily basis by living out here in kalifornia, the longer you live out here the more like an idiot you appear.
Maybe Geniuses should get harsher sentences as they are "more better" at telling right from wrong, I'll put my dawg up against most of them.
Battler you da man.
TMoney maybe he will catch the barron he will need around 100 (98?). (Manfried von Richthofen?)
IQ shouldnt matter as mine is going down on a daily basis by living out here in kalifornia, the longer you live out here the more like an idiot you appear.
Maybe Geniuses should get harsher sentences as they are "more better" at telling right from wrong, I'll put my dawg up against most of them.
I don't make the connection between "not knowing right from wrong" and the death penalty. So what if someone doesn't know right from wrong, are their victims any less victimized? If they are not fit to be part of a society that does not force violent acts on someone then why should they live?
It is not what is wanted on the law books, but in Texas, Texas correct me, the statue to award the death penalty is not murder alone, but the commitment of another crime (felonious) where murder was the end result. However, Murder One can not be charged if the person is not responsible for his actions. That is mostly defined as knowing what is right from wrong at the time of the act. This is where that temporary insanity plea comes from.
So Taz you can reply to me like I am an idiot, but I did not author these laws, these have been there for a great while.
The point I was making is that the Texas judicial system deemed him competant to stand trial. He was convicted by a jury. He was sentence in according to Texas penal law.
Whether he knew it was wrong or not is not the issue of bringing back the dead; what is, is that since he was judged capable by a duly elected or appointed official, Texas was allow to pursue Murder 1.
So when the socialist attack W again, it should be made clear by all that this retard was awarded due process.
[This message has been edited by hube1236 (edited August 11, 2000).]
So Taz you can reply to me like I am an idiot, but I did not author these laws, these have been there for a great while.
The point I was making is that the Texas judicial system deemed him competant to stand trial. He was convicted by a jury. He was sentence in according to Texas penal law.
Whether he knew it was wrong or not is not the issue of bringing back the dead; what is, is that since he was judged capable by a duly elected or appointed official, Texas was allow to pursue Murder 1.
So when the socialist attack W again, it should be made clear by all that this retard was awarded due process.
[This message has been edited by hube1236 (edited August 11, 2000).]
The more one takes I.Q. tests, the less reliable they become. My wife's I.Q. is so high, is essentially unmeasurable. Why? She has taken the Weschler Adult Intelligence Scale 2 (WAIS 2) 20+ x in her education as a clinical therapist. Both her and I have worked with criminals in many ways, and I.Q. tests are a very small part of an overall assessment for mental ability.
The term mental retardation is loosly thrown about, in the Texas situation and others. What is mental retardation today is not what it was 20+ years ago. This has changed not only in clinical applications/therapy, but in what criminal courts determine to be "competent." If you got the money, and the standing, and this is sad to say, you can find someone with a "Ph.D" after their name to tell them you are the most F'd human they'd ever met.
Most criminals test lower in nearly every performance dimension one could think of, but, they aren't that much lower than the kid who made your last espresso at Starbucks.
I believe that murder while in the commission of another felony is the standard in Texas, and in most states.
p.s., my wife is the smartest person I know. And those days she's NOT the smartest person I know, I still let her think that.
Mike
The term mental retardation is loosly thrown about, in the Texas situation and others. What is mental retardation today is not what it was 20+ years ago. This has changed not only in clinical applications/therapy, but in what criminal courts determine to be "competent." If you got the money, and the standing, and this is sad to say, you can find someone with a "Ph.D" after their name to tell them you are the most F'd human they'd ever met.
Most criminals test lower in nearly every performance dimension one could think of, but, they aren't that much lower than the kid who made your last espresso at Starbucks.
I believe that murder while in the commission of another felony is the standard in Texas, and in most states.
p.s., my wife is the smartest person I know. And those days she's NOT the smartest person I know, I still let her think that.
Mike