Kel-Tec P-11 for pocket carry?

Actually, the p11 trigger is safe in a 100% empty otherwise pocket. It is SO long and SO heavy. Grab a desantis though if you plan to make it a habit.
 
Aside from just being extra cautious about the trigger I would pick up a DeSantis or similar for pocket carry any way. I think it's less likely to snag coming out of a proper holster than a pocket.
 
I tried to like pocket carrying a 9mm that size and I just can't. I have a 32 acp Tomcat, too, but do not trust the cartridge much. There are several tiny 380's that are smaller and lighter than either one, with a better cartridge than the 32. I would rather have the 9mm with me, but the P3AT can go anywhere at a moment's notice in any kind of clothing.
 
I tried to like pocket carrying a 9mm that size and I just can't.
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I feel the same: the "idea" of pocket carry, at least with most guns, is far more attractive than the reality of actually doing so. And doing so suggests that you think you're going to have more time available to get the gun ready to use than you may actually have...

A side note: I've had a number of Kel-Tecs over the years, and despite their reputation for being cantankerous, mine (P-11, P3AT, two Sub-2000s [9mm and .40] and a PF9) have always been 100%. I "fluffed and buffed" the earliest ones, but didn't even bother with the PF9.

Years ago, I pocket-carried a P11. Then a Kel-Tec P3AT and later a Ruger LCP. I now carry a PF9, but in an IWB holster. And I'm thinking about switching to something a bit bigger (also IWB) that I shoot better and more comfortably, so that I'm sure the first shots will go where they should.

(With the Kel-Tecs I've owned, the first one or two shots -- arguable the most important -- often aren't where I expected them to be. This was less of an issue with the PF9 than with the P11. When you shoot at the range, you don't pay attention to this sort of thing... and after a few rounds, the guns do well. It's not a gun thing, either -- it's a "shooter" thing. I learned this big time when I used the P11 in an IDPA match. My first three shots were disappointing; the rest of the match I did very well with it.)

If you're in a restaurant and sitting, getting the gun out is very difficult. If you're driving (moving or stopped) getting the gun out is very difficult. Sometimes, just walking, getting the gun out can be both difficult AND TIME-CONSUMING.

Many -- perhaps most -- confrontations requiring that you be READY to use a firearm can come on you very quickly. Perhaps more quickly than the time available.

I've had a bunch of Kel-Tec guns; presently only a PF9 and the PMR-30. Most of them (never had the P32, but I hear good things about it) require a good bit of practice to develop proficiency, ESPECIALLY if you shoot other guns in the meantime. The PF9 has a more conventional trigger, but it is a beast to shoot; the P11 is a less "normal" trigger, but the gun is more pleasant to use. I always used a well-made pocket holster with the P11, P3AT [and a Ruger LCP] and the PF9 (when I tried pocket carry with it.) ( With the PF9, I also used some grip material that noticeably reduces felt recoil; I don't mind practicing with it, now.

BE SURE you really want to pocket carry before you commit yourself to a gun and a method that may not work for you. (A small water gun in the pocket for a while might help you determine whether it'll work for you.)

A recent Guns & Ammo (the latest) has an extended test of 10 different small, polymer "almost pocket guns" and the PF9 is one of them, along with all of the newest iterations of various other pistols, including the Glock. (The P11 isn't among them, however. You ought to pick up that article and read it to see how the various guns perform.

Five different shooters (two staff members and three long-term LEOs) put 650 rounds through EACH of the guns tested in rotations so that the performance was representative of all shooters.. The articles provides detail and summaries of the problems encountered and gun accuracy. One of the shooters (a staff member of the mag) seemed to get the best out of each gun... and the accuracy of one or two of them was amazing. The rest were about what you'd expect. (He shot a couple of sub-2" groups with a couple of the guns, the smallest from the Taurus PT709 "Slim". That got me thinking!
 
the p11 is right on the borderline of too much gun to pocket carry. I have a clip on mine and usually either tuck it in my waistband or use it with thunderwear. I like the pf9 for pocket carry although it too is almost too much gun (i guess it depends on your pockets). In some of the posts i see talk about the trigger on these guns, look up the eraser mod it really makes a big difference.
 
I feel the same: the "idea" of pocket carry, at least with most guns, is far more attractive than the reality of actually doing so. And doing so suggests that you think you're going to have more time available to get the gun ready to use than you may actually have...
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I pocket carry a Beretta Pico (.380) it's in my weak side front pocket. It's seems to work when I'm walking in for example a parking lot to casually put my hand in my pocket. That's about the only time that I can see it being quicker to deploy the strong side IWB holster.
 
As I said, This will only be on occasions that the other carry methods aren't used. (only when I don't already have a gun on and need to make a quick trip to the convenience store) If this were to be my primary means of carry I would certainly look for something better suited to the task but for as often as it will be used I'm just looking for something that will not be a substantial downgrade from my usual carry. If I can fit it in my pocket and it isn't all that noticeable it will work much better than my Tomcat for the role. I do like pocket carry for the fact that all you need to do is put your hand in your pocket before a threat manifests itself. If the guy walking towards you with a strange look on his face doesn't turn out to be an attacker you didn't do anything that would get you on the news by just walking past him with your hand in your pocket.
 
I owned a P-11. It had the worst trigger of any pistol I have ever owned--by a long ways. Very heavy/long pull. Some rationalize saying it is a safety factor. The fact is the trigger pull is awful. I dumped it and now have a Ruger LC9s [not to be confused with the LC9]. Much better trigger and thus more likely to be accurate.
 
I have a PF-9 has been a great pistol for several years No fluff and buff needed . I carry it IWB didn't like pocket. These days I go back and forth between my CW9 Kahr and the PF-9 for carry. Had PF longer so still leaning that way.
 
I agree that it's a bit large for the pocket, and I never got use to the trigger on one I had years ago. Maybe they're better now, though. My choice would be a CM9, because I pocket carry my PM9 when I can't cover a holster.
 
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