Katie Couric CBS News.

Pipo,
As a matter of fact I don't believe that. In order to call it a "slant" you first have to decide where "center" is. The average American is liberal. You and I may not like that fact but it's the truth. And I can't speak to what irritates the liberals, but I'll tell you what irritates me: FOX News lies. And they definitely show more bias than the others.
Submitted as *proof* of the bias, here's the study:
http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/polisci/faculty/groseclose/Media.Bias.8.htm
Look at the last panel. Pay particular attention to where the media outlets fall in comparison to the average voter, average Dem, and average Republican. See? That's proof.
Which I'm still waiting for supporting the notion that there's a conspiracy to intentionally slant the media. Of course, you can't so no real sense in waiting.
What really bugs me is people who go on and on about how their viewpoint is being supressed by some 'evil conspiracy' so they don't have to look at the fact that they're in the minority.
 
I don't deny that the FOX News Network is conservative. The FOX evening news (Special Report) is the least bias news on TV, IMO. Also the liberals who are guests on the other programming, I believe, are better ambassadors for their side than the conservatives used by the more liberal news magazines.

Studies done by liberal institutions really doesn't prove anything more than me stating my opinion.
 
Slash, come on now...

For the last 30 years the big three liberals have demonized hunting, hunters, guns, gun owners in every imaginable way. How is that fair and unbiased?If you are a gun owner yourself, why are you sticking up for the liberal so called mainstream media. I know they want all of us to THINK they report as maintream, but they don't.

Katie Couric hated Ronald Reagan ( I voted for 2x) and conservatism 25 years ago, and does even more today. CBS hated Reagan, and hates Bush. It's so easy to see thru the liberal networks agenda.

Will queen katie and the liberals report on lives saved thru self protection with firearms, or family outings with gun sports? Will the NYT tell us how much tax money goes to make new anti gun laws? will they report to women how effective a CCW is at preventing rape, or shuting down a home invasion?


NO..............
 
The average American is liberal.
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This is patently false, as false as if I said "The average American is conservative". If you had a continuum extreme conservative on the right, extreme liberal on the left, the "average American" would fall either slightly right or left of center. If the average American were liberal there would be no conservatives in office.
 
I'll respond to Carbiner first.
Yes, the mainstream media largely maligns people like us. In fact I hold several views that are decidedly unpopular not just in the media but in our society in general. *But* I don't hold the illusion that my viewpoint is being intentionally covered up by some giant conspiracy either. It's *my* opinion arrived at freely with the facts I have on hand.
Bias or lack thereof in the media has nothing to do with being fair and everything to do with ratings. They are going to tailor their tone to their audience and believe it or not there's just as many complaints from the left as there are from the right about what they perceive as bias. That's how they sort out what tone is most effective for Americans in general.
Finally, I'm not "sticking up" for anybody except myself (and by extension you). The problem isn't the media, it's our unpopular opinion. If we all just sit around fussing about "the man" holding us down we're never going to take an honest look at ourselves and fix what's really broken: our public image and how we convey our message. Stop it with the 'media bias' crutch. It's counterproductive and intellectually lazy. Not to mention a turn-off to the people you're trying to reach.

Pipo,
The FOX evening news (Special Report) is the least bias news on TV, IMO.
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Which I never disputed. But your opinion is subjective. What matters is the opinion of the average American and as I said the average American is liberal.
If the average American were liberal there would be no conservatives in office.
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^ Now that's a patently false statement. The average American is disinterested in politics and almost completely unaware of what's going on. They are easily distracted and don't bother to vote. This is one small part of the entire puzzle that makes it possible for Republicans to get elected.
Another is the rock-solid reliability of the Republican party faithful. They may not be any better informed than their liberal counterparts but they vote Republican regardless of who's running.
Another is the peculiarity of our electoral college system which has a built-in bias towards rural states.
Another is the extreme positions presented by our two viable parties.
There are alot of reasons why liberals don't necessarily guarantee a Democratic government but make no mistake; they are liberal.
Take a look at the public opinion polls. 2 out of 3 disapprove of Bush. 2 out of 3 believe that abortion should be legal. 2 out of 3 believe that guns should be controlled. 3 out of 4 believe in Social Security. A huge majority believe that the federal government should pay them money.
It's sad but it's true.
The good news is that they can be convinced to look at things differently if people simply take the time to present a rational argument backed up by facts instead of derision and conjecture.
This whole "liberal media" argument is irrational and unproveable. It's not going to convince anybody of anything beyond the idea that you're merely some paranoid right-winger with guns.
 
That study was done in a liberal college by liberals in defense of the liberal media.
If their was no truth to liberal bias, why such a fuss to deny it?

The polls you show are byproducts of people being told day after day the same trash. Bush-bad, guns-control, abortion-good, this is the only way the liberal media will report. All the liberal media outlets for years have bashed gun and only equate them to crime and death, then lie to people like you about how gun control works.
With no other information source available people start to believe it.

The media loves to take polls, it tells them alot about what you absorb day to day, and thus where to tweek the information. 2 out of 3 BELIEVE in gun control your poll says?
How about I ask you to prove that one!
 
Last one of the night.
http://www.pollingreport.com/guns.htm

That study was done in a liberal college by liberals in defense of the liberal media.
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No, it was actually conducted by the prof at a different college using Republican party money to prove liberal bias. You haven't even read it.
I think you should. The methodology was solid and the interpretation was right-slanted. Then again....I can only lead you to knowledge, not make you think.


The polls you show are byproducts of people being told day after day the same trash.
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Translation: The people are sheep who must be told what to think. The problem is that we should be the ones telling them. Dangerous way to think, my friend. You're talking about disseminating propaganda in the free press which is exactly what you're accusing those dastardly democrats of. With no proof I might add.
You may even be right... but nobody tells me what to think. How 'bout you?
 
If that poll was accurate, which it is not, I need real proof,
American's should be marching in the streets demanding safty from assult weapons, according to that poll, which ASSULT WEAPONS, was coined and drummed thru out the liberal media.
College studies will usually contradict themselves sooner or later.
Katie Couric will paint a false picture of Hillary as our next pres, just wait.
 
Actually most polls indicate the majority of Americans consider themselves right of center. It's popped up repeatedly over the years and left people scratching their heads as to how the Dem Party survives. Personally I never saw that as difficult to explain: The Dem Party is as far right at the local level as the Repub Party. It doesn't mutate until you climb the ladder to the highest state offices and beyond.

The networks are owned and controlled by what would be considered "conservative interests". it's important to note that this is so because people interpret Capitalist as "conservative". Fact is, politically, the ownership cares not one whit what the staff does or says so long as they make money. Advertising revenue. Since better than 80% of network staffs have voted Dem in the past several national elections and since only recently has this bias been financially questionable their is no serious debate on the leftward slant of MSM news.

Side note: if the majority of the Citizenry were leftist then Air America and oher such abominations would be thriving, driven on by the predominant leftist market. Instead ALL leftist efforts to intrude into talk radio fail financially, and that failure is now manifestring itself in the MSM. Follow the money.

Lastly, studies have been done of the past decade at least on fireams issues, socialized medicine and other topics and all showed a serious bias in air-time towards leftist viewpoints. Sometimes this bias was so severe NO conservative or moderate view would be presented at all.

The bias is undeniable, and only in the last five years has the left even tried to deny it. I made a lot of comments when they shifted from pride at their media influence to a "Hey, Don't look at our poor, downtrodden selves". It was downright funny to watch the switch. But whatever, the bias remains clear and the cohesive agenda is missable only by those determined not to see it.
 
Carbiner,
The poll is accurate. You just wish it wasn't.
It's so much easier to feel like a victim instead of accepting the idea that mainstream America might simply disagree with you. Only one of these assumptions empowers you to change the situation.

2nd,
Actually most polls indicate the majority of Americans consider themselves right of center.
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Example?
Since better than 80% of network staffs have voted Dem
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Uhh...that's the reporters *not* the staffs. It's the editors who determine what stories we see or don't see and they're a good deal more moderate (actually libertarian). But even if that were true it doesn't prove that they're intentionally manipulating stories as part of some conspiracy. I'm still waiting for some supporting evidence for this 'cohesive agenda' you speak of.
 
Same old story, different thread.

Dems, "I don't see no bias, theres no bias".

Repubs, "Media bias is rampant".

Whatever I'll watch FOX, help yourself on CBS.

http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/story?id=133369

George Stephanopoulos is the Chief Washington Correspondent for ABC News and anchor of ABC's Sunday morning program, "This Week with George Stephanopoulos."

As Chief Washington Correspondent, Stephanopoulos oversees the network's coverage of Congress and reports on political and policy stories for all ABC News platforms, including "World News Tonight," "Nightline," "Good Morning America," and ABC News' digital properties, including ABC News Now and ABCNews.com.

Prior to joining ABC News, Stephanopoulos served in the Clinton administration as the senior adviser to the president for policy and strategy. He was a key strategist in both Clinton presidential campaigns and was involved in the development of virtually all major policy initiatives during President Clinton's first term in office.

During the 1992 presidential election, Stephanopoulos served on the Clinton/Gore campaign as the deputy campaign manager and director of communications. He oversaw polling, policy, scheduling, press relations and media operations.
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CBS Evening News, Couric, nuf said

NBC Washington Bureau Chief Tim Russert,

Before joining NBC News, Russert served as counselor in New York Governor Mario Cuomo's office in Albany in 1983 to 1984 and was chief of staff to Democratic Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan from 1977 to 1982.
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All of these positions could be filled by less politically divisive personalities.

To say "mainstream America, the average American, most Americans" are liberal or conservative is simply not true. Maybe of the people you come in contact with, the people in your community, your family and friends, the media you prefer to use are liberal, this doesn't make your blanket statements true.

My guess slash is either you are young (20's) or part of a liberal community.
 
No doubt it'd read pretty much like 'OutFOXed' by Alexandra Kitty/ Robert Greenwald.
Proof, man. Do you have any or not?
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Yes GoSlash, I do. My proof is the book written by Bernard Goldberg entitled Bias. Bernard Goldberg is a professional newsman who spent his adult working life in the broadcast news business. He has seen the inner workings of TV news at a level none of us ever will. By anyone's standards, he is an expert witness and what he has to say about the liberal/socialist bias of broadcast news is carries with it unimpeachible credibility.

He is an authority on the subject and offers proof of the liberal bias in TV news - and offers it in spades. His book lays bare and confirms for the world to see that which you cannot stand - the truth of the liberal bias in the mainstream media.

Just because you don't like his message does not mean that his message is not factual, accurate and true. The facts are facts and you have to live with them, whether you like it or not.
 
Just because you don't like his message does not mean that his message is not factual, accurate and true
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Point in fact I never commented on what I "liked". What I'm saying is that him saying so doesn't make it true any more than the other book I mentioned.
Bias is debateable and we can keep on about it 'til we're both blue in the face (or fingers) but none of this proves in any way this alleged 'liberal conspiracy'.

pipo,
I'm in my mid-30s and part of all sorts of communities including liberals conservatives and others.
 
The fact remains that people have found much better news/information sources on the net, mags, radio, and tv. The liberal media just hates it too. People don't trust the so called mainstream media the way they used to.

One simple example, in MN we have he Star Tribune news paper. They would not use certain names when addressing sports teams in the sad face of pollitical correctness. Once this liberal tactic was exposed the paper lost hundreds of readers in a short time and have continued to this day.
 
I couldn't stand her on NBC, won't watch her on CBS. I got so tired of her sticking microphones in someone's face when a loved one died. Someone should have done that to her when her husband passed away.
 
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