kahr cm45 problems

There's also quite a few that won't recommend 3" 45s and it's not that I think it's more or less of an inconvenience but that it's a trait that 3" 45 have limited slide travel which makes these kinds of issues the norm.
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There are plenty of compact 45's that don't have the issue and it is not the norm that I can personally speak of. I don't doubt that they are harder to get right but that is in the design and for all we know it's just a problem with the pistol and not the design of that particular make and model. Most reliable brands have got it right by now.

Also, why are you unloading the gun after carrying? Lock it up. Guns don't magically go off on their own.
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He has to unload the round to switch to target ammo at the range anyway. By your suggestion how would you propose propose to do that?

I'd be more concerned about eventual bullet setback.
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Don't know what SD ammo your using or if you've experienced it but most modern SD ammo have griping grooves on the bullet or a crimp behind the bullet to prevent setback and I have loaded and unloaded my SD ammo probably 100 times and no setback yet. Bullet tech has came a long way. Not as common as most might think.

Kind of like "it was the (factory) ammo" reasoning behind most malfunctions. Does not happen nearly as much as claimed. Whether it was a dirty gun that was cleaned after the fact and the ammo got the blame or the operator limpwristing, or just the gun, many assume or want to believe it was the ammo.

Reliability and function have varying degrees in the mind of the owner/operator. While some consider a gun that ran 500 rounds with only 2 hiccups a sound gun, others might think you haven't even knocked the dust off it yet.

Besides the extractor and ejector, check that recoil spring and make sure it isn't binding a little. Little crap behind the extractor can cause it too.I hope you get it figured out. Maybe have someone take a look at it before you have it fixed or send it back.
 
Sure but like I said earlier
Now you might be able to take enough off the ejector to allow a live round enough room to eject but then it may not run.
So which is more important to you now the rare chance that you'll need to rack out a live round or the very likely scenario where you need to fire a second round quickly?
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Again, there's no reason a 3" 45 shouldn't be able to eject a live round. You shouldn't need to shave anything off the ejector. Having a good ejector and a full length cartridge being able to eject are in no way mutually exclusive. You're argument has become nonsensical and you seem determined to back it up more for appearance now than any logic. Best of luck.
 
This is a known issue with the CM45. The problem is that the profile of the barrel hood is such that longer rounds get hung up when trying to eject them in an unfired state. There is a small divot underneath the barrel hood that is supposed to allow the clearance for this to occur, but some CM45s are out of spec just enough to end up with the nose of the bullet jammed so tightly you can't clear it without prying them out. I carry Hornady Critical Defense 185gr in mine and their shorter profiles have no problems ejecting with no problems. Same goes with Federal Hydra Shok rounds. Speer Gold Dots and others longer, wider nosed JHPs are impossible. Many people simply take a Dremel and some Flitz and increase the size of the barrel hood divot. That's what I did and my pistol runs fine now with everything I normally carry. But that's because I don't mind tinkering and know what I'm doing. And I love the pistol and didn't want to send it to them when I knew exactly what I needed to do to fix it. That said, Kahrs are what they are because of their incredibly tight tolerances, so there may be some ammo that simply won't work regardless of what you do. Still, Kahr is trying to use this as an excuse to make you pay shipping. That's ridiculous. Call them up and demand to speak to a supervisor if they give you the run around again.
 
Again, there's no reason a 3" 45 shouldn't be able to eject a live round.
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Well then there must not be a problem with OPs gun, obviously he's imagining it.
Again as I said earlier the short barrel has a corresponding short recoil spring system that limits travel also now that you've lightened the slide and are still imparting 45 caliber momentum to the slide this spring must be heavy so you may not be able to run any bullet you like and have it eject a live round manufacturing tolerances just are that way sometimes.
He has to unload the round to switch to target ammo at the range anyway. By your suggestion how would you propose propose to do that?
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Shoot the dang thing with the ammo that's in it then put fresh ammo in it when you leave. You really couldn't think of that on your own?
 
Well then there must not be a problem with OPs gun, obviously he's imagining it.
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Have you considered the possibility there is something wrong with the particular gun the OP has?

Again as I said earlier the short barrel has a corresponding short recoil spring system that limits travel also now that you've lightened the slide and are still imparting 45 caliber momentum to the slide this spring must be heavy so you may not be able to run any bullet you like and have it eject a live round manufacturing tolerances just are that way sometimes.
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And yet there are other 3" 45s that don't have this problem, even other examples of this model too. You're acting like the current problems the OP has is just the nature of the beast and there is evidence to the contrary.
 
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Have you considered the possibility there is something wrong with the particular gun the OP has?
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I know there's something wrong with OP's gun it's a 3" barrelled 45 ACP and they are prone to issues;)
As issues go not being able to eject a live round easily is mild;)

And yet there are other 3" 45s that don't have this problem, even other examples of this model too. You're acting like the current problems the OP has is just the nature of the beast and there is evidence to the contrary.
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No some will eject live ammo just fine but choke when shot lol. and no I'm acting like problems in general are just the nature of the beast. ;);)
 
In your opinion.
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Well by all means regale us with all the problems you concider less important.
Heck I'd even concider the slide not locking back on the last round more important and I own a LCP:D
 
Anybody read my reply? If you merely Google CM45 problems you'll get this link that shows the OP knows exactly what he's talking about. It's the same problem I had and has ZERO to do with barrel length, recoil spring, etc. It also has a link to how to fix it on your own like I did. http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?10123-P45-wont-extract-unfired-round&p=119592#post119592 . But if I were the OP and not the garage gunsmith I am, I'd demand Kahr fix it. http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?25011-Kahr-CM45-problems
 
It's the same problem I had and has ZERO to do with barrel length, recoil spring, etc.
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The problem exists because of barrel length and the travel of the recoil spring otherwise they'd just move the ejector farther to the rear so that the bullet would be clear of the barrel before hitting ejector. that's why it's a problem with the CM and doesn't exist in the CW;)
 
First problem with this whole interaction was in the first statement:
Also, why are you unloading the gun after carrying? Lock it up. Guns don't magically go off on their own.
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The statement was IMHO:
A: Not a good solution to the problem
B: Not a good solution to circumvent all the problems associated with the malfunction and obtain reasonable use of the firearm.
C: Too expensive of an alternative
Summation is that the statement was unhelpful and not useful/constructive.
I think you missed the whole point. Which lead to the second statement.

You stated:
Also, why are you unloading the gun after carrying? Lock it up. Guns don't magically go off on their own.
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My question:
He has to unload the round to switch to target ammo at the range anyway. By your suggestion how would you propose propose to do that?
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Your response:
Shoot the dang thing with the ammo that's in it then put fresh ammo in it when you leave. You really couldn't think of that on your own?
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So shoot up the Expensive HP rounds so you can load the cheaper target rounds? That is your answer? Then insult me with
"you really couldn't think of that one on your own?"
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To me that ^^^^ was a the second miscommunication/misunderstanding . I believe most of us comprehended the usefulness/helpfulness of your response. Just not sure you were following along in context from the first reciprocation.

In response to another statement here:
Again, there's no reason a 3" 45 shouldn't be able to eject a live round.
You responded with this:
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(Personally I don't see this statement saying it has too, rather it should be able too eject the round) and your response here:
:Well then there must not be a problem with OPs gun, obviously he's imagining it.
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Makes absolutely no since to me. I concede that I may be lacking the skills to have full contextual comprehension of your statement.. Could you please translate your response for me? Because my translation (context) is this statement that you responded to: The gun should eject if working properly with this response: "Then the gun must not be the problem and the op is imagining it."
 
So shoot up the Expensive HP rounds so you can load the cheaper target rounds?
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Yes shoot up a few of the expensive rounds heck it's only a 6 shot.but if you're that tight for funds I'd carry ball ammo in the first place that way you won't have to worry about it feeding the expensive hollowpoints that are just too expensive to shoot.

As for miscomunication
I didn't state
"Also, why are you unloading the gun after carrying? Lock it up. Guns don't magically go off on their own."
 
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