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I posted a few days ago asking about warped frame rails on P40 coverts. I got two responses with similar problem. I don't know if they are to the degree of mine or not. There is at least a .040 bend in rail from front to rear. so the rail is no where near the slide except right on the ends. That also puts the ejector on quite a angle barely clearing the slot in the slide for it. It looks very crooked in frame. Is this the quality of these frames or did I just get one molded baddd. Also the trigger pivot pin has backed out partially three times in 150 rounds.
Otherwise it has funtioned perfect as far as feeding and shooting ammo. But now I'm wondering if I should have went with the steel frame. Any one else have these conditions?
 
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Have both... Trigger pin creeps out, and the frame rails are bowed. But then, so were the frame rails on both P9's the factory sent me. I think that's the way they are, not an "issue". The best way to get a weigh-in is:

If you have a Polymer Kahr pistol, and the frame rails are COMPLETELY straight with the slide removed, let us know.

As for the trigger pin, you can fix that with Lok-Tite. Just let it creep out a bit, then put the lok-tite on the rim of the RIGHT SIDE (where the hole now is that a pin used to be in.) That way, when you push the pin back in to the gun, it will push excess lok-tite OUT of the pistol instead of pulling the goo into the trigger mechanism.

Kahr is 100% after 220 rounds I fired, + 200 rounds fired by Dave at the factory before sending it.
 
I have a P9 with the same frame bow in it (I believe I responded to your original post on this). Since it is on the P40 and the P9, I would think it is either intended to be that way or a really bad flaw in the designs of their molds.

I'll be keeping a close eye on mine, and if you hear anyhting about this being a problem, please let me know.
 
Well I believe it must be a really bad flaw then.The rail on the right side is perfectly straight. The grip on the left side near slide release is even warped in some.Really the left rail may as well not be on the gun except for the first 1/4 in at each end, if that. That isn't much bearing suface. Not to mention the crooked ejector because of the frame bend. The pin must be a bad deal too. I shouldn't have to "glue" my $500 gun together. Maybe I'm to picky,I know Kahr steel guns are great. I would hate to be in a defensive situation and have my trigger pivot pin on the ground or bottom of my holster. We shall see what happens but I wish I would have bought the K40 steel frame. How long would a P40 frame like that hold up until it's sloppy loose?
Is there anyone that has straight rails on their Polymer frame? Are Glocks Frames malformed also? My dealer sent it back to the factory today.
 
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Same thing on the rail on mine, IRock - only the left side has the bow in it. Have not had any problems with the trigger pivot pin.

Again, if you hear that it is indeed a problem, please let me know. Thanks!
 
OK, you guys made me go look.

My Kahr P9 which was made just last November, has a bowed rail on the left side. Also, the distance between the rails at the forward end is a few thousandths smaller than in the rear.

The gun seems to work fine, though.
 
I have a P9 with roughly 600 rounds through it. Left side rail is a little bowed, just as the others have stated. I did have the problem with the pivot pin creeping out. I happened to talk to an engineer at the factory (I got him accidently). He explained that during discharge, the pivot pin hole distorts enough to allow the pin to walk out. I decided to return it to the factory to have it repaired. Other than the trigger pin, the firearm has been flawless.
 
Customer service for problems is OK, but it would be better to fix the problems so they don't need such a great customer service.

Jim
 
Customer service on the frame issue should not have been needed. They have to know the frames are leaving the factory deformed. Yea so they function properly, but wait untill you have several thousand rounds through the gun. No not 500 or two thousand. I have not heard anything from Kahr on mine yet. Like I said they make nice steel guns, but this polymer is not looking good to me.
 
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Hey P9 owners,

My trigger pin has started backing out on me too; I've just gone past 1100 rounds thru gun; also I noticed the left side frame rail ( little piece of steel imbedded in the dustcover) has begun to get gouged. Could this be caused by the frame being bowed?
 
Ok I can't resist anymore, Onslaught knows my whole story, but I have already been through everything you are experiencing IRock. I am amazed at how consistent the symptoms are. My P40 had the dancing trigger pin, the bent and thoroughly chewed up rails and the final straw that broke the Camels back, was when I returned it the last time, because the frame had cracked.

Customer service was nice to me each time, but it really doesn't matter when you have to send the gun back multiple times. One of my experiences took 5 weeks to get the pistol returned and I had to call them and remind them that they had the darn thing. Dave the production manager forgot it was on his desk, no doubt under the existing pile of P series pistols.:rolleyes: Kahr replaced my pistol on the third trip to the repair shop and I sold it, because I just couldn't stand to look at the piece of junk anymore. I'm sure that Kahr makes excellent steel guns, but after all that I will never find out.

For more info as I was experiencing it, see if you can still pull up the Kahr Problems thread.
 
I'll stick with the K series Kahr's, from what most of you are saying the polymers are prone to problems!
 
In spite of the fact that the K9 I traded in towards a Browning Auto 5 Light 20 made in Japan, choked and had to be sent back to the factory for a new mag release button and extractor, it was accurate and shot well with amazingly very little recoil.

As time passes and I mellow, I may end up getting a Kahr K9 again since they are very portable and shootable. No go on the poly though.
 
bikeguy
In my case it was a problem because they eventually warped so bad that it caused jagged edges, or divots in the small metal rails that wouldn't allow the firearm to return to battery. Their first fix was to grind the rails smooth again.
 
I just recently recieved my Kahr P40 Covert and I haven't noticed any warping of the rails. They do "dip" in in the middle, but this looks to definately be intentional because the dips are perfect with nice smooth edges. I'm not sure if this is the same problem you noticed or not, but if it is then I'm pretty sure they are intentional.

Mike
 
Malyk
My entire rails, from front to back where bowed downward. They would not allow the grooves on the slide to move smoothly, so it began chewing up the rails and skipping when trying to return to battery.
 
Geez Bullitt... I don't remember hearing THAT part of your ordeal!

My slide rails only curve inward slightly, and evenly, on both sides. When you put the slide on, the rails are then straight. I just figured the inward curve was to provide a tighter fit or something.

I still love my P40, and a bit of loctite fixed the trigger pin.

It does pi$$ me off though that your dealing didn't come out as well. Glad you got something you're happy with now. If only Glock would make a Kahr sized pistol... then we could all be happy ;)
 
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