Just rejoined the NRA

Blackmind,

:confused: , I'm trying to get people to join and your comments were in the negative, so I will try to show why I made the statement of: "steak and lobster".

My reply was in reply to:

they need lots of money. Froman and LaPierre aint staying at the motel 6.
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So, going with the same "mindset", hence that if you stay in a 5 star hotel, then you aren't exactly eating soup and salad.

But I think that the comment that I replied to was to say that maybe too much of the money sent in is being wasted on the grand hotels, dinners, etc..

My problem had come into play because instead of trying to work themselves OUT of a job, the NRA staffs are working to keep a job. The main goal of the NRA should be to finally be able to close and lock their doors because they are no longer needed. They state that the goal is to protect the 2nd amendment, which should just be a short termed goal, the final goal ensuring that the 2nd amendent is untouchable for the rest of mankinds existance upon this earth.

Our problem, the NRA members, is that we don't have the hard core as pres. or vice. Too many of us are "too afraid" because these people are "hard core".

So instead of bitchin about them (the NRA) not having the goal of going out of business because we've won, we should all become life members and change the way they operate.

There are an estimated 80 million gun owners out there, there is an estimated 4-5 million NRA members out there. Now, if the NRA was doing good for us gun owners in a way that we like, then there should be more NRA members out there. So, for some reason, 75 million gun owners are not members of the NRA, so that means that something isn't working.

What's the old saying that we say of the anti's: Insanity is doing the same thing and thinking that they will get a different outcome (paraphrased).

I will tell you the truth, I stopped being an NRA member about 2 years ago, I didn't agree with many of the things that I've read over the net. Yet the "hard core" folks got me fired up again, namely Lars Larson and Ted Nugent (Ted was here in Oregon and he and Lars are best buds). That's what got me fired back up and I think that maybe, just maybe, having the "hard cores" as the runners of the organization, more folks then 5 million will become fired up!

/rant

Wayne
 
"Yeah, them. They need to join and vote. "

Exactly. What percentage of people in this country read a newspaper daily? How many know who the chief justice of the US Supreme Court is? How many vote?

John is right on the money. If all those gun owners would get off their asses and join the NRA, or even if they just voted like gun owners, politicians like Diane Feinstein would never be seen again.

Tim
 
Tim and John,

John is right on the money. If all those gun owners would get off their asses and join the NRA, or even if they just voted like gun owners...
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Right, this is the main reason that I rejoined and am going for the life membership. That is why I posted this post. Granted, I'm not as good with words as many here, but I try to get my messasge across.

So, if everyone would please look past the crude formulation of my sentence structure, and word use, I'm basically asking that more of the gun owners join or rejoin the NRA being eligible to vote (life time memberships) and change the NRA to where it works and more people join.

I was also told by a life time member (and I can't prove this as fact or not) that the NRA Staff will not forward emails or letters from "general members" directly to the board, that it's put into a "general box" to be read or just a canned reply sent but the board will read every email/letter from a voting member. *disclaimer again, I have NO proof this is true, it was just told to me via a life time member. Also, it is just my belief that this is true due to my past experiences with the organization and staff. Any NRA board members which to weigh into this?).

Wayne
 
NRA - Our Association, Right or Wrong

Question is, do you join and support a somewhat weakened organization, and by doing so, make it stronger, or do you just sit around on your whining arse and let it wither and die, and any hope of keeping your rights along with it?

There are half a dozen 2nd amendment groups out there and for every one there is a Handgun Control, or a Gun safety Advocates Committee, or some other lefty loony group fighting to disarm America, which in case you missed it, is the LAST country where firearms ownership is a RIGHT, not a privilege that can be withdrawn at any moment.

If all the NRA did was to make me a list every election year of the s.o.b.'s that want to disarm honest citizens and the ones that don't then every living soul in this country who owns so much as a cap pistol ought to send in the $35.00 dues payment and consider it money well spent.

But that's NOT all they do. If you are a menber or not, if you get into a fight with the government, the police, or whomever based on your legal firearms ownership, you can call the NRA legal defense fund and have a good chance that a pro-gun rights lawyer will magically appear to save your sorry butt from getting trampled by the authorities.

I like the folks at the 2nd Amendment Foundation, but if I find myself on the edge of going away over a firearms ownership issue, I'll be calling the NRA for help.
'Course being a life member since Hector was a pup, I might be a bit prejudiced in their favor. After all, once you have your Charlton Heston Silver Bullet, and your Tom Selleck Quigley bullet, and your real parchment calligraphy "Defender of the Second Amendment Award" Certificate, what more do you need to make you an advocate for NRA??? :D :D
 
Congratulations Wayne. BTW the more peaceful Wayne thing is working very well for you.

I'll second everything johnbt said. This part bears particular repeating:
"75 million gun owners are not members of the NRA, so that means that something isn't working."

Yeah, them. They need to join and vote.
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Here is a picture of the Kid's Shooting Sports day camp that our NRA trained instructors are able to run every summer at our local Vashon Sportsmen's Club.

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All but 2 of the rifles in the above picture were purchased with Friends of NRA grants. Between the FONRA grants and the generous donation of the facility(s) by our fellow club members (not to mention the incredibly generous donation of a 50+ hour donation of time by our instructors & helpers) we are able to have the kids learn firearms safety, shoot rifles and shotguns, fish, and shoot bows and arrows for a week, and get an NRA Junior Membership for less than $150.00 per student.

Kind of a small price to pay for a couple of annoying requests for money if you ask me. :rolleyes:
 
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My problem had come into play because instead of trying to work themselves OUT of a job, the NRA staffs are working to keep a job. The main goal of the NRA should be to finally be able to close and lock their doors because they are no longer needed. They state that the goal is to protect the 2nd amendment, which should just be a short termed goal, the final goal ensuring that the 2nd amendent is untouchable for the rest of mankinds existance upon this earth.[/unquote]

The NRA is first and foremost an organization to promote shooting. It came to the RKBA battle by default because there is no other group with it's clout and influence capable of standing up to the anti gun forces.

If all anti gun legislation was removed tomorrow and this country went back to a true second amendment the NRA would still be around running the programs it was designed for.
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The NRA is first and foremost an organization to promote shooting. It came to the RKBA battle by default because there is no other group with it's clout and influence capable of standing up to the anti gun forces.

If all anti gun legislation was removed tomorrow and this country went back to a true second amendment the NRA would still be around running the programs it was designed for.
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Read it. Comprehend it. Remember it.



And remember to thank God for it and the nation you are fortunate enough to be blessed with.
 
Kind of a small price to pay for a couple of annoying requests for money if you ask me.
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Never thought about it this way and you're 100% correct. Next time I get a mailing, this is what I will think about. Once my membership is paid I will give what I can when they ask.

If all anti gun legislation was removed tomorrow and this country went back to a true second amendment the NRA would still be around running the programs it was designed for.
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True.

I know the reason that I dropped out was due to I didn't think they were doing enough and were not hard-core enough. Not good reasons to dump my membership now that I think of it.

But I truly believe that ALL gun owners should belong to the NRA. And to really tick off some people, I don't consider "oh, I'm just a hunter we don't need (insert gun here)", or "oh, I just shoot skeet/clays we don't need (insert gun here)", and the "we don't need such and such type of guns (general)" to be real gun owners but snobs and wanna be elitists.

Maybe we should start a "cyber" NRA recruitment thread :) (I won't start it because it's too close to the no soliciting rule of the board and not sure if it's allowed)

Wayne

Edited:

Just thought about it, I guess I did start one technically with this thread (okay folks, sometimes I'm slow :o )
 
"I didn't think they were doing enough and were not hard-core enough."

Me too. The solution is to join and vote.

John
 
Nra

:D ANOTHER LIFE MEMBER HERE :D (Secret Handshake....owwww!)
Said what I had to say before. In case you missed it here it is AGAIN.

NRA - Our Association, Right or Wrong

Question is, do you join and support a somewhat weakened organization, and by doing so, make it stronger, or do you just sit around on your whining arse and let it wither and die, and any hope of keeping your rights along with it?

There are half a dozen 2nd amendment groups out there and for every one there is a Handgun Control, or a Gun safety Advocates Committee, or some other lefty loony group fighting to disarm America, which in case you missed it, is the LAST country where firearms ownership is a RIGHT, not a privilege that can be withdrawn at any moment.

If all the NRA did was to make me a list every election year of the s.o.b.'s that want to disarm honest citizens and the ones that don't then every living soul in this country who owns so much as a cap pistol ought to send in the $35.00 dues payment and consider it money well spent.

But that's NOT all they do. If you are a menber or not, if you get into a fight with the government, the police, or whomever based on your legal firearms ownership, you can call the NRA legal defense fund and have a good chance that a pro-gun rights lawyer will magically appear to save your sorry butt from getting trampled by the authorities.

I like the folks at the 2nd Amendment Foundation, but if I find myself on the edge of going away over a firearms ownership issue, I'll be calling the NRA for help.
'Course being a life member since Hector was a pup, I might be a bit prejudiced in their favor. After all, once you have your Charlton Heston Silver Bullet, and your Tom Selleck Quigley bullet, and your real parchment calligraphy "Defender of the Second Amendment Award" Certificate, what more do you need to make you an advocate for NRA??? :D :D
 
There have been times I've not been happy with the NRA and even one time I was out right PISSED, but in the end, we have some of the same goals, so thus the Lifetime Membership and support.
 
Why not join the Democratic Party and change it from the inside out?
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Tyme, actually not a bad idea :). Well, at least you can vote in the primaries and vote for the worse canidate (one that you know can't win) :D.

Wayne
 
"Why not join the Democratic Party and change it from the inside out?"

Why not join the NRA and change the Democratic Party from the outside in?

;)

John
 
Yeah, them. They need to join and vote.
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In my mind, every gun owner should join the NRA, and then another organization, if in a bad state like me (MA) then the state organisation (like GOAL for me), if in a good state then GOA or other harder-core type.
 
liberal

I'm a liberal... I personally think the NRA has gotten way too political... I don't see gun laws having to do with one side or the other but just a basic right and I think both or all side of the political spectrum have used this to cause chaos... and to divide folks.

With all that said, I'm a member of both the NRA and my state association Grassroots, and proud of it.
 
If it's not political then why is that the Democrats are always the ones introducing gun control bills?

John
 
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