Just had an ND

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Thank goodness no one was hurt. That said, it amazing how analytical people get after the ND takes place. If there ever is a doubt the gun is loaded, visually checking the chamber take seconds.

I practice dry firing a lot, almost everyday, If I have any doubt about the state of any of my weapons, I check the chamber, even If I don't have a doubt and was just handling an empty weapon, I still check the chamber. Even after squeezing the trigger on a snap cap, I still check the chamber. Doesn't matter the reason, interuption, etc, when in doubt... check the chamber, rack the slide multiple times, etc., doesn't cost a thing but time. Responses like "welcome to the club" are bull, if you follow all the safety rules, you should never have to "join the club".

best regards,

Luis Leon
 
Smith66 thanks for posting. Your ND is serious, treat it as such, move on.
You chose to have this gun hobby/gun lifestyle, and this is part of it.
 
Smith...

You do know it's going to rain tomorrow?

On the serious side, what happend is a very very good lesson for everyone. No matter how experienced you are, how many schools you've been to, how much trigger time, you can still make THE mistake.

That includes me to!

Glad you had it pointed in a safe direction. I've seen plenty of photos of people who didn't have it in a safe direction!
 
I have just recently had a semi-ND. On my 1873 I usually load one, skip one and load the rest. I do that so I can have an empty cylinder to watch my trigger control, well I got my count wrong and what I thought was an empty cylinder wasn't. It was kind of okay because I was aiming at something I planned on shooting, just not on that pull of the trigger.:eek:
 
...you do not need to pull the triggeer in ANY of my Smith & Wesson, Beretta, Ruger, or Dan Wesson, semi-auto pistols...
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At least two of the companies you listed make at least one pistol model that requires the trigger to be pulled for disassembly.

While that may or may not be a problem, it's certainly not a "Glock" problem since there were pistols for many years before Glocks were even thought of that required a trigger pull for disassembly.

It's a very rare ND that can be blamed on equipment though it's common for people to try. NDs are almost invariably the result of violating very simple safety rules.
 
JohnSKA...

You quoted me:

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...you do not need to pull the triggeer in ANY of my Smith & Wesson, Beretta, Ruger, or Dan Wesson, semi-auto pistols...

At least two of the companies you listed make at least one pistol model that requires the trigger to be pulled for disassembly.

OK... let's read that statement CAREFULLY...

...you do not need to pull the triggeer in ANY of my Smith & Wesson, Beretta, Ruger, or Dan Wesson, semi-auto pistols...

I put it that way on purpose... and the "my" describes the pistols that I, Hemicuda own, from those companies... I am FULLY aware that some of those copmpanies make striker-fired guns... but I asure you that none of MY Smith & Wesson, Beretta, Ruger, or Dan Wesson, semi-auto pistols need have the trigger pulled for disassembly... and my statement is 100% totally true!
 
Your post began and ended with the assertion that the ND was Glock related. I therefore naturally assumed that the point of your post was that the ND was Glock related and responded appropriately.

The fact that YOU personally do not own pistols that have this feature is not evidence that this is a Glock issue, it's only evidence of your buying preferences.

In reality the need to pull the trigger for disassembly is NOT exclusive to Glocks nor did it originate with Glocks. There are other gunmakers that make pistols that require the trigger be pulled for disassembly. Your list conveniently contained two of those makers. At least one of those manufacturers was making a gun that required the trigger be pulled for dissassembly LONG before Glock pistols came on the market.

So, while the ND could be construed to be related to the need to pull the trigger for disassembly (in reality it's the result of not following simple safety rules), trying to imply that is a Glock issue (rather than a design issue shared by several products by several manufacturers) is even more incorrect.

The point is that NDs are almost invariably the result of violating very simple safety rules, NOT the fault of the equipment involved.
 
It IS a Glock related issue... he was shooting his ceiling with a Glock, not a Korth, or a Colt 1911, or a NAA Mini...

and this type of Nd (I know what an ND and what an AD are) is not gonna happen with MY guns... it can't...

there ARE others that is can happen with, but he wasn't shooting those, was he? he was shooting a Glock...

If he'd have been ND'ing a Charmin tiolet-paper roll, then it would be Charmin toilet-paper roll related...
 
First of all, thanks to everyone for thier replies. I am glad to take advice and hear other people's personal experiences. Secondly, I'm half tempted to say "don't blame the Glock, it functioned flawlessly yet again"...but I won't, because I didn't start this thread to get into the Glock vs ____ thing. Bottom line is, I pulled the trigger = my fault. I've been going over the incident in my head all day, and I know what I did wrong. I'm never going to make those mistakes again. What I've been thinking about is why it happened. I've slipped into some bad habbits that until the other day seemed harmless. I believe that the "negligent" in ND refers to the shooter's (my) mindset. I had become negligent or lazy in my handling of firearms I am very firmiliar with, and that is how a series of mistakes led to an accident. I've done my pennance (thanks, Fr. BillCA :o ), and I'm tempted to repeat such a drill at least once a week, to keep from becoming negligent again. Thanks again to everybody,

Smith66
 
Smith 66

All you can do is to remeber this, and not let it ever happen again...

Mine was a true AD... a gun with a half-cock featuee (a revolver) had the lock let go, from half-cock, and fired a .22 lead-nose into a magazine for my .17 HN2... made a mess of a $25.00 magazine that was full of ammo at the time... (I didn't think the hammer could get up enough energy from half-cock, to fire a primer!)

it is only the 4 rules that saved me... gun was pointed in a safe direction, and not at someone or something irreplacable... (pointed at the top shelf of the safe...) My AD will ALWAYS remind me why we point them in a safe direction AT ALL TIMES!!!

DON'T tear yourself up over this, but also never forget...
 
Smith66 ~

Excellent summary and closing statement.

Thanks for being brave enough to share your mistake with us, so that we could learn from it. It takes a real man to step up and say, "I was wrong, and now I'm going to change it..." Kudos.

pax
 
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