Just an ADVISE!!! - Do not Travel to Southern Philippines

Some recent news, horribly tragic from the look of it.

Now, it is par for the course for terrorists of any ilk to prey on noncombatants as they seek "freedom", "independent rule" and whatnot. However, what connection do Philipine Moros have with the NYC bombers to make them issue such impossible to fill demands? Has the jungle heat been getting to these boys or are they attempting to score brownie points with Muslim tangoes around the world?
Jeff

Two Philippine Headless Bodies Found
By JIM GOMEZ, Associated Press Writer
TALIPAO, Philippines (AP) -- Philippine troops found two headless bodies today near the former stronghold of a group of Muslim rebels, indicating the rebels were telling the truth when they claimed to have beheaded two hostages, an official said.
Soldiers on patrol near the former Abu Sayyaf rebel camp in southern Basilan province found what appeared to be a shallow grave. They dug it up and found two headless male bodies whose hands were tied, said Col. Fernando Bajed of the army's 103rd brigade. The rebels seized about 50 hostages, including many children, from two schools in March. They released about 20 of them, but then, two weeks ago, they announced they had beheaded two teachers because the government had ignored their demands.
Though the rebels presented no proof that they had killed the teachers, the military responded to the claim by attacking the group's stronghold on April 22.
The kidnappers fled with their remaining 27 hostages last weekend just before their camp was overrun by the military. Pursuing soldiers later rescued 15 of the hostages, but four others were killed by the rebels. The guerrillas are believed to be still holding about eight people. The rebels are fighting for a separate Islamic nation in the southern Philippines. In exchange for the hostages, they had demanded the release of three terrorists from U.S. jails, including Ramzi Yousef, the mastermind of the 1993 bombing of New York's World Trade Center. Also today, soldiers on a neighboring island tried to head off another group of hostage-taking rebels who broke through military lines and were believed to be escaping with their 21 captives, military officials said. The officials confirmed that at least some of the Abu Sayyaf rebels had slipped through a military cordon around the area in Talipao. The rebels -- who abducted 10 foreign tourists and 11 other people from a resort in neighboring Malaysia on April 23 -- were believed to be taking the hostages into the hills of Patikul town, the officials said. Two soldiers were killed and six wounded in four separate clashes with the rebels in Talipao on Friday, the military's Southern Command said. Government envoys made contact with the rebels today and hoped to open formal negotiations later in the day, said Yusop Jikiri, an aide to the government's negotiator. The rebels were supposed to submit written demands today, government negotiator Nur Misuari said, but the clashes could mean a delay.
''These people are now on the run, trying to look for a new place to keep their hostages,'' Misuari said. ''For us to commence any formal talks, we need what they call a climate of confidence that there would be no betrayal.''
Forty-six more boxes of food and medicine were to be sent to the hostages, including Coca-Cola from Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad, he said.
Representatives of the negotiators who visited the rebels Thursday said the guerrillas were already outside the military cordon and had all 21 captives with them. The accounts contradicted earlier reports that some of the hostages had either died or escaped. Contacts between the kidnappers and negotiators were cut last week after hundreds of troops encircled the area where the hostages had been held in a small bamboo hut. A series of clashes erupted on Tuesday and Wednesday as the rebels attempted to escape. The 21 hostages include three Germans, two French nationals, two South Africans, two Finns and one Lebanese in addition to 10 Malaysians and one Filipino. Several of the hostages' governments have urged restraint by the military and called for a peaceful solution. Meanwhile, in the latest violence in the southern Philippines, two bus bombs killed six people and injured 35 more this afternoon, DXJM Radio in Butuan and hospital staff said. A larger bomb was found in a third bus and defused.
Yet another bomb was found on a bus this evening in the southern city of Davao. The chief of the city's anti-terrorist unit was seriously injured trying to detonate it, authorities said.
Criminal gangs here sometimes bomb buses to extort money from companies. But the military blamed the Moro Islamic Liberation Front, a larger Muslim rebel group, for other explosions in recent days.
 
Once the population of muslims builds up here in the US we can expect the same barbaric terrorism to start. I have a Christian arab friend who visited New York City. He went to get some good arabic food in a neighborhood and there were signs (in arabic) all over the place supporting Hizbollah and Hamas. Believe me, I am not a religous bigot. I just say the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.
 
There is a debate over wording in the Koran. Some individuals interpret the wording as a command to convert or slay "infidels" by the sword, more rational minds do not jump to this conclusion.

When you promise angry people a version of heaven for slaying human beings, you do tend to get plenty of butcher wannabes.

The population of Algeria found that out several years ago, squeezed between a secretive government (which has dirty hands and does share some culpability in the current disaster) and some very angry extremist trash that specialize in massacres.

There is a suspicion of Muslems whatever their ilk in America. The majority of these individuals, regardless of their feelings about Uncle Sugar and the state of Islam around the world, are probably well behaved citizens. It would be wise for all believers in Islam to cultivate
open relations with their neighbors while living within our borders because any extremist activity that finally startles mainstream America will generate a terrific backlash against both extremists and, unfortunately, honest Muslem.
Jeff


Jeff
 
The Abbusayaf are not muslim or practicing islam. They are moros who still practice banditry.

What do you expect to a person who just stay in the mountain and are lazy to work legally if not to resort to kidnapping as a source of income. They are not fighting for any political agenda but they are purely criminals. They deserve being bombarded and I am in favor for their extermination. There is no forgiveness for terrorisms.

One thing you should put in mind to whoever read this. Christians and Muslim will never meet to one point or agreement, even the Quran says that the Christian and the Jews are the nearest brothers of Muslim.

Muslim in the quran are very different to many muslim we see around only by name. Many fanatics and extremies using the Word Jihad as an excuse of launching a war (not war but terrorism).

Also, pls be inform that there are many kinds of muslim in the Philippines, such as the Maguindanaons, Tausugs, Maranaos, etc. and they differ in characters also. Our Military has many muslims also fro mindanao but they are also good.

Would you believe that event the muslims in Manila denounced the actions of the Abbusayaf.

What I can say, I like to read the quran for it is 75 or 85 percent biblical but I don't trust the muslims for they look the christians as great enemy. Only in Islamic centers that they are praising the christians when they are lecturing or converting some christians. If you don't believe what I am saying, then attend an islamic center seminars and and you may see what I am saying.

If one of you knows an "Iglesia ni Kristo" "Church of Christ", it would be the same that they claim to be the only group to have salvation and they are good if they are preaching but once you are a member to them you may see that you will be hating non members because of the doctrines. I am saying in truth as I've been in all these groups. whoever want to ask anything about it, I am willing to exchange views and ideas abut islam and iglesia ni Cristo Doctrine.

Thanks
 
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