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JFPO Alert--NRA is the Flat Earth Society
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I note also, Mr. Chairman, that the fans of an absolute
reading of the Second Amendment do not extend the same
absolute reading to the other parts of the Bill of Rights.
They are among the first to carve the edges off the right
to free speech guaranteed in the First Amendment, to shave
the Fourth Amendment's protection against unreasonable
search and seizure, or to restrict the Sixth Amendment's
guarantees of due process.
What an uterly insulting statement.
Where is the reference to The Corps? I didn't see it.
This would be it...
Emphasis by me.
After reading this, my respect for the LEAA jumped greatly! My hope is that they are as staunch today in defense of the 2nd as these gentlemen were that represented them then.
Emphasis by me.
April 6, 1995
REP. SCHUMER QUESTIONS HEROISM OF DECORATED VIETNAM VET IN
CRIME SUBCOMMITTEE HEARING
Washington, DC -- A panel of six highly decorated law
enforcement officers from around the country, appeared
before the House Subcommittee on Crime yesterday, offering
testimony in favor of repealing the assault weapons ban.
Their testimony provoked fire from Rep. Charles Schumer
(D-NY), who has maintained that the ban is widely supported
by law enforcement. Rep. Schumer spearheaded the assault
weapons ban last year when he was chairman of the House
Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime.
Rep. Schumer criticized one witness, a disabled former
Marine who was awarded nine decorations for his service
in Vietnam, for displaying his medals. After the witness
left the room, the congressman tried to discredit the
officer by claiming that a "real hero" would not need
such a display to prove his heroism.
The witness, master Officer Craig Roberts, who has worked
for the past 25 years in the Tulsa, Oklahoma Police
Department, drew the congressman's fire by disputing the
effectiveness of the assault weapons ban in protecting
either the police or the public. Officer Roberts testified
that, "It has been my experience that enacting laws that
restrict the ownership or right to bear firearms does not
help the police, nor does it help keep citizens safe."
Refuting the contention that the gun ban had the backing
of law enforcement, Officer Roberts told the subcommittee
members that "rank-and-file officers do not support this
federal attack on the people's right to bear arms -- even
so-called assault weapons." Speaking from personal experience, the former Marine told subcommittee members: "I've faced the muzzle end of _real_ assault weapons, and I learned the hard way -- to fear the man, not the device."
Officer Roberts, who said he brought his medals along as
"physical evidence" of the truth of his testimony, was
stunned by the congressman's remarks. "I can't believe
that anyone would question my credibility, after my service
to my country in Vietnam, and my service to my city of Tulsa," he said.
The panel of six officers, who ranged in rank from patrolman to chief, and represented six different areas of the country, was organized by Law Enforcement Alliance of America (LEAA), the nation's largest organization of police officers, crime victims and concerned citizens working to make America safer.
After reading this, my respect for the LEAA jumped greatly! My hope is that they are as staunch today in defense of the 2nd as these gentlemen were that represented them then.
So Chuckie
I guess you're saying that Lawrence Tribe is wrong. He's a LIBERAL legal scholar, and quite pre-eminent in the area of Const. Law, and HE has even admitted the second guarantees SOME kind of individual right. I cannot begin to express how much I loathe Chuckie Schumer. I can't fathom how such an idiot is elected to such high office.
I guess you're saying that Lawrence Tribe is wrong. He's a LIBERAL legal scholar, and quite pre-eminent in the area of Const. Law, and HE has even admitted the second guarantees SOME kind of individual right. I cannot begin to express how much I loathe Chuckie Schumer. I can't fathom how such an idiot is elected to such high office.
The GOA is a great organization and money sent to them is well spent, but without checking their site I would doubt that they support an absolute RKBA. They may say that, but that would mean that they, like Chuck Schumer, are using their own definition of absolute. For the RKBA to be absolute, it would have to be allowed to EVERYONE with NO infringements of any kind. Felons, children, and the insane would be allowed to own guns. In fact, felons would be allowed to keep their guns with them in prison, just as they still have the right to free speech and the free practice of their religion.
When Schumer talks about an "absolute" definition, what he means is absolute only in the sense that it is absolutely the same as it was when the founders decided to include it among protected rights in the Constitution. That bothers him because he believes that rights should be watered down from what the founders considered them to be, but that requires a less than strict reading of the Constitution.
I hope we're all clear now. I haven't found an issue I disagree with GOA on yet.
When Schumer talks about an "absolute" definition, what he means is absolute only in the sense that it is absolutely the same as it was when the founders decided to include it among protected rights in the Constitution. That bothers him because he believes that rights should be watered down from what the founders considered them to be, but that requires a less than strict reading of the Constitution.
I hope we're all clear now. I haven't found an issue I disagree with GOA on yet.