Jeff Cooper on Point Shooting

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One of you needs to hang some targets out at 25 yards, and work on your bullseye accuracy skills, and the other needs to stick some pie plates up at 7 yards, and work on your "broad side of a bad guy" skills.
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Bogie,

I'll just say I've got IDPA (current) expert or above in all classifications. When in IPSC I made class 'A' using a P-35 back when we had man .vs. man matches like the Flying "M". I've competed in NRA silhouette, IHMSA silhouette, three gun matches. Been to at least a dozen schools of shooting and FOF. And yea, I do practice point shooting often.

So I might know a bit about shooting, long range or short, slow or fast.

I won't even get into where I'm at in the martial arts....
 
I won't even get into where I'm at in the martial arts....
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That's a relief. For a minute there I thought I acidentally typed in monster.com and was reading someone's resume for a mall ninja trainee position.:)

Nice to have the training. But, it doesn't mean jack-squat if you can't follow through using it in real life.

And that's a major point of my posts. It's good to have various training. But unless one has had several different real life defensive situations to truly see if one can follow through, it's all theory on what works best for that specific person.
 
It's good to have various training. But unless one has had several different real life defensive situations to truly see if one can follow through, it's all theory on what works best for that specific person.
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Tuttle8,

Do you know how many 'real life defensive situations' Rex Applegate was in? Especially before and during the time he formulated his theories?

You know how many times Jim Cirillo was in 'real life defensive situations' before he was a firearms trainer for the NYPD?

Oh, and I have been through two. No I haven't shot anyone but one burgler (at gunpoint) and one purse snatcher. Nothing big, didn't beat up anyone, but I've been in a few.

And were did I mention 'specific persons'?
 
And were did I mention 'specific persons'?
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I didn't say you did. I did.

Just because Cirillo, Applegate, and others that you mentioned were apparently able to perfectly execute their skills in a real life combat situation doesn't necessarily mean others will do the same.

All the "fun and games" of shooting different targets at different angles and stances does NOT prove that you WILL fire that gun the most prudent method when your life is about to end.

I honestly don't care who you list as "experts" including yourself. Thrust an average joe like myself and the general population and everybody will act differently....very differently.

Oh, and I have been through two. No I haven't shot anyone but one burgler (at gunpoint) and one purse snatcher. Nothing big, didn't beat up anyone, but I've been in a few.
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So, have you or haven't you been through a defensive situation? You claim that you have, then you haven't. You claim that you haven't shot anyone, but then you did...twice.

If you haven't had to pull that trigger to stop an assailant, then you haven't had the dubious honor of proving the theories of your training to yourself.

I won't even get into where I'm at in the martial arts....
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I must pry....You must be Matt Hamill. If so, I want your autograph.
 
Three pages seems to be about the extreme outer limit for most pointshooting threads. Mostly not even that long. Dunno why, but there it is.

When we get out the rulers and start measuring the size of everyone's members, it's probably time to do something else for awhile.

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pax
 
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