James Bond Needs a 1911-A1

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I watched my favorite Bond film yesterday: Skyfall. It superbly contrasted old school law enforcement methodologies with new school digital technology. However, a Walther PPK/S 9MM Short (.380 Auto) was anachronistic when it was introduced. I would be flabbergasted to learn of a single cop in the Western world carrying a .380 Auto as his primary duty handgun regardless of his assignment.

James' Bond deserves a handgun befitting the character. A Springfield Armory Professional Model (FBI Gun) .45 ACP would be infinitely more realistic. The Springfield Armory Professional Model .45 ACP was designed from the ground up as a cop's gun, especially cops assigned to most life endangering units.

Give James Bond a copy of the Springfield Armory FBI Gun .45 ACP.
 
I always liked what Matt Helm had to say, a spook is likelier to have to get rid of an incriminating weapon than to have to shoot somebody.

Real Fleming Bond used a variety of guns in addition to his .25 Beretta and .32 Walther.
He was supplied with a S&W Bodyguard .38 for when more power was required than his .32. There was a "long barreled .45" stashed in the agency Aston Martin. And he once went after a target with a .300 Savage. I don't remember what he was shooting in the case where he was partnered with another sniper. The other guy's shot was just to break the plate glass window, Bond fired the killing shot as the glass fragmented.
 
And not American to boot. From my conversations with foreigners that served in whatever capacity.. I gather they typically like browning hp like we like the 1911. Or the cz

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Ian Fleming was a desk spy, not a field agent, and not very sophisticated on weapons.
Maj. Geoffrey Boothroyd offered technical advise, some of which was taken, much not.

About the movies, not much to say.
 
However, a Walther PPK/S 9MM Short (.380 Auto) was anachronistic when it was introduced.
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First, if we're speaking of it being an anachronism when the Walther PP was introduced I believe that was in 1929 with the PPK being released in 1931. Both were very popular with police in Germany and throughout Europe. The PPK was very popular internationally for decades and used up until recent decades. It was a favorite of the CIA and used by Navy Seals and others, till lighter things came along.

Fleming developed the character of Bond as a spy, an assassin and terrorist. He was upfront on that. The double 00 designation meant that. He carried concealed often deeply.

Fleming has Bond carrying his Berretta in 1952 in Casino Royale. He upgrades to the Walther in 32acp in Dr. No in 1957 and also give him the S&W Centennial. Both guns were state of the art for CCW at the time.

So in neither case was the PPK anachronistic.

In the movies his PPK is a back up to the many Walther guns in 9mm that he has carried for some years now. In the movies and books he did use a 45 as well.

Oh, in the very first book, Casino Royale, he waks up in his bed and under the pillow is a Colt revolver Police Positive in 38 Spl. with a cut down barrel, a snubby.

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Bond being a brit would be better served with a Hi Power than a 1911 but the Walther P99s he carried in a few of the films seemed to work. Having a few myself I know they are boringly dependable, deadly accurate and with a 16 round capacity of easy to find 9mm ammo, it fit's the bill for someone like Bond.
 
A gun is only one of 007's lethal weapons. He also uses his sex appeal or a Karate Chop or can make the bad guys kill themselves by doing something stupid and 007 can take down helicopters with an AR7 take down in 22 LR. Don't burst my idealistic 007 bubble. LaLaLaLaLaLaLaLaLaLa there is no bond gun but a PPK in 32 ACP:)
 
Ian Fleming knew little about firearms, after one of his novels came out noted UK firearms authority Geoffrey Boothroyd wrote him pointing out his mistakes, in the next story "Major Boothroyd" was appointed Bond's armorer.
 
Try Watching “The World is Not Enough”.

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If I choose a new gun, it definitely will not be a 1911 of any kind. It's so old and lacking. It's designing around WWI for cry out loud!!! I have the Gold Cup, I never managed to make it reliable with CCI Blazer hollow point, I know the profile of the bullet is like an ashtray, but still............ And that cocked and locked is just so past tense.
 
If I choose a new gun, it definitely will not be a 1911 of any kind. It's so old and lacking. It's designing around WWI for cry out loud!!! I have the Gold Cup, I never managed to make it reliable with CCI Blazer hollow point, I know the profile of the bullet is like an ashtray, but still............ And that cocked and locked is just so past tense.

Wow, if you are trying to start a debate you chose the right statement!! Lots of 1911 faithful here.

Anyway, carry on with .380

Rich
 
I have the Gold Cup, I never managed to make it reliable with CCI Blazer hollow point
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This says it all:D:rolleyes:

In fact, if you are up in Northern CA, I'll trade you my super duper reliable MODERN PLASTIC glock 19 and 21 for your old relic of a series 70 gold cup that won't right on those blazers!;)
 
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I've never had problems with hollow points and my series 80 commander [emoji2375], regardless I don't think bond would use one. Bhp if anything that large

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Modern Bond would make more sense with a sig p365 or Springfield hellcat.

A p238 is a pretty big step up if he's married to 380.
 
James Bond... the original Bond (Sean Connery, RIP), packed a .32 ACP Walther. Of course, he was tough and skilled enough to use his fists first anyhow... the Walther was a back up.
 
Ian Fleming knew little about firearms, after one of his novels came out noted UK firearms authority Geoffrey Boothroyd wrote him pointing out his mistakes, in the next story "Major Boothroyd" was appointed Bond's armorer.
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It was Boothroyd who convinced Fleming to ditch the Beretta in 25 acp and move to the PPK in 32 acp.

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The proper modern Bond pistol would be a Walther PPS.

A 1911A1 makes no sense. He’s a spy, and his pistol should be small and easily concealed.
 
I’m not sure a 5” steel 1911 in 45 ACP makes a lot of sense for Bond’s character, especially as he is often not in America and my impression is 45 ACP isn’t as popular overseas as it is here (and sourcing ammunition might be a concern).


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