"I've shot XX,XXX rounds" : HOW do you know?

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KaMaKaZe

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Starting off the evening with a few quick posts...

After passing through the handgun forum, I couldn't help but notice with a few of the posts that people seem to exactly know how much they've shot a particular firearm. Now, I know with a good deal of certainty how much I shoot firearm X at any given time since I reload my own ammunition. BUT, when you've owned that gun for several years -- how can you say that you've shot 10,000 rounds through it? Whos keepin' count here? I mean, I'm sure you can say -- with a great deal of certainty -- that you've shot at least 10,000 rounds.. but what gives? I've got a .38spec that I've shot 13,984 rounds through to date. :D (See what I'm sayin'?)

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President, FUD's Fan Club.
 
Some of us are just that anal-retentive to know. After getting some advice from a friend, I now keep records on each new gun I have, how much I have shot through it, repairs, and problems. The benefit of such record keeping is that it allows the person to understand what wears out, when, and what to expect given previous performance. When I head out to the range, I take with me X rounds to shoot in a given gun, say 300. If I shoot them all, then I add 300 to my total for that gun. If I have 14 left over, I don't round up, but record 286 shots.

My records are general. Some people keep records as to shooting conditions, types of ammo shot and ammo performance in a given gun, how they felt shooting that day, etc.

It takes a little time, but the records are good to have. For example, I have a Kimber Ultra Elite. These guns have funky little compoud recoil spring systems. I have found that the recoil spring guide rod breaks between 3000 and 4000 rounds. When I reach over 2000 rounds on a given guide rod, it is relegated to being used for practice sessions only and not for when I carry the gun.

Get the anal-retentive picture?
 
I've often wondered the same thing.

Since I sometimes can't remember what I had for breakfast ... even though I don't own many guns, I decided to keep track. I bought some paper tags at Office Depot, and on one side I note the rounds fired, and on the other side, the date last cleaned. I just update the tag every time I take it shooting and / or clean. When the tag gets filled up, I'll just transfer the info to another. The tag is attached to the trigger guard with a piece of string. Simple, but so far effective for me.

I'll be interested to see what others do.

Regards from AZ

[This message has been edited by Jeff Thomas (edited October 01, 2000).]
 
KaM -
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gopher .45:

My records are general. Some people keep records as to shooting conditions, types of ammo shot and ammo performance in a given gun, how they felt shooting that day, etc.
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Gopher just described me. :D However, I am meticulous (denoting care and attention to detail) rather than anal-retentive. :)

Seriously, I have a range book (hard bound) and make notes on all of the above after each range session.

Memory can distort, but ball point pen and paper don't lie... unless the author does. ;)

Cliff
 
Bought+drawn+loaded-on hand=fired. Or lost, or given away or sumpin.

30,40,50 years ago I kept precise records, now I don't even bother to keep time.

Sam....smallbore is anything under 20mm
 
I had a small counter surgically implanted about 25 years ago.

It measures the amount of recoil and assigns the correct caliber to it, and keeps track of the rounds in separate data stacks.

A recent modification implanted a visual sensor in my eye that tracks accuracy by logging each distinct hit as it impacts the target.

I can tie in to my computer via a finger socket relay, and keep this information so that I can print it out later.

A new enhancement for the visual chip includes a chronograph, but they're currently having problems with it, as it won't read through glasses reliably.

Ok, so I'm BSing...

But wouldn't such a system be really neat? :)

Oh yeah, I used to keep very detailed records of what I shot, and when.

I've slacked off, unfortunatly.

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Beware the man with the S&W .357 Mag.
Chances are he knows how to use it.
 
Are you kidding?
Visa not only keeps track - but if I buy something other than .45... they call to verify it was ME buying it.
 
I know exactly how many primers I buy, and how many bullets I buy, for whatever handgun I shoot. I date everything I buy, and the date of use.

Several months ago here, I think it had to do with a discussion on the reliabilty of Beretaa 92FSs, I wrote that I had shot approx 23,000 rounds, +/-, of 9mm through that pistol. I knew that because I was required to keep a fairly accurate account.

I did this by counting how many boxes of 50 I shot, per day of shooting.

When I was shooting IPSC/SWPL, in So. Kalif., I knew very closely how many rounds of .45acp I had through each of my several Colt .45s. Again, amount of bullets/primers bought, shot, noted for each pistol.

FWIW. J.B.
 
I keep track of it. I also keep track of the mileage on my car so I know when to change oil. Granted, the oil changes are easier to keep an accurate record of because of the odometer, but making a hash mark for each box of 50, or brick of 500 .22's, or box of 500 slugs isn't all that hard.
Springs and things DO wear out.
 
Log book with: Date, time, location, load and performance (most of the time) Makes it easy to track recoil spring wear... and also if I happen to have a KB I know exactly what I put into the gun that made it go boom.
 
It only takes a minute to write the date, gun, load used, problems, and how you fired(shaky from too much coffee at work, etc.,) into a log. I started doing this last year, and it's actually pretty simple. It's as easy as writing the mileage and date you change your car's oil. You'll know how often you go to the range, any gun problems, any ammo problems, your rate of practice, any user problems that need correcting, too.

straightShot

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NRA Life Member/Volunteer Recruiter
Michigan Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners(MCRGO)
 
Go to the Fulton Armory web page. Download the USMC competitive rifleman's data book. See how they have their round count records set up and use it. Its simple. It is also very important to do. All of the serious competitive riflemen I know keep records. That way they now when to change bbls, op rod springs, other misc parts they may break or need replaced.
 
Some people have WAY too much time on their hands. :) I have often wondered the same thing, if somebody asked me about a count it would sound like this. How many rounds? "Not much" or "A bunch of em'".

My 2 cents.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KaMaKaZe:
Starting off the evening with a few quick posts...

After passing through the handgun forum, I couldn't help but notice with a few of the posts that people seem to exactly know how much they've shot a particular firearm.
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It's called a "log". Usually used more often for precision rifles, but some folks log for hanguns too.
 
95% of the ammo I shoot through my guns are reloads. Each 1911 I shoot have specific loads it likes. I keep a log book on what I loaded and how each load functioned. It's quite easy to know fairly closely to how many rounds went through each gun. For example, my Wilson CQB has roughly 8695 reloads through it. Take into account 400 or so Hydroshoks and 200 rounds of factory ammo and you come up with, 9295 rounds.

Ok, so I'm anal retentive with staying organized.
 
I know how many rounds I've shot overall, though not how many in each of the .357 magnums, as I kept most of the brass in anticipation of reloading. I did throw out about 300 rounds of Blazer aluminum cases before I got disgusted with the dirt.

Since reloading I know how many rounds due to the number of boxes of primers I've used.
 
I used to tear the flap off the end of each box of ammo and throw in a pocket of range bag to keep track, but I am sure I have forgotten to do this at least 3 or 4 times. I am not a good record keeper. Pretty close to how I keep tax records. :)
 
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