It's 2:30 am. You hear glass breaking...

What do I do? I can't promise you anything. I can tell you that I will rely on God, training and instincts He has given me. I will go to the closet get the gun and secure the wife. I will avoid clearing the house and yell out to make sure it's no one I know. I will use my furnishings as cover and let the perp come to me. I will not attempt to clear the house and be ambush bait.

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"When guns are outlawed;I will be an outlaw."
 
Will, I don't have an answer that I'm comfortable with either but given the situation as described (only telephone downstairs), how long to you do you stay upstairs? An hour? Two hours? Remember it's 2:30 in the morning. If you continue not to hear anything, do you stand guard at the foot of the stairs until the sun comes up? If you continue to hear noises, then I agree that you stay upstairs as secure as possible but once you don't hear anything, how long do yoy wait? Again, I don't have an answer that I'm comfortable with as clearing house is a dangerous thing to do even with proper training but sooner or later you have to go downstairs. And when you do go downstairs (even if it's just to get to the phone to call the police), you're going to have to do some form of clearing of at least part of the house so that you are not taken by surprise. FUD
 
How would you handle this situation? Say you had a phone upstairs and you call the cops. You do the safe thing and stay upstairs - eventually the police show up at your door. Now you've got to go answer your door. I would think this would be the most vulnerable time for you either because (a) you're lulled into a sense of security now that the police have shown up and/or (b) for those of us who have glass panels in our doors or windows close by - how do you think the police would react if they see someone coming to the door holding a weapon? Even if you told them you were armed, how would they know you were the homeowner and not the bad guy?
 
There's another option used by the Australian Embassy in New Zealand during the Vietnam War.

Outside their mutli-storey building there was a large crowd. They simply switched of the lift so anyone wanting in the embassy had to come up the stairs. They then put a M60 on a tripod at the top of the stairs.

I aways thought it an effective method. :)
I guess you would want to warn the arriving police that you were armed. :)

[This message has been edited by Young Kiwi (edited July 14, 2000).]
 
Is there the possibility of shouting out of the bedroom window for a neighbor to call the police? How long would I wait? Until daylight, if need be. You are FAR too easy of a target going down the stairs! Oh, get a danged cell phone!
 
Your Fudness, Oh Fudly One, Herr Fud Meister:

I think if there is a ravenous criminal downstairs, the series of events will transpire rather quickly and he/they will be up for a visit soon.

If he/they don't and stay downstairs plundering your wealth, so what? If you have to wait the night out upstairs, I can deal with but it would not be pretty.

As you stated its a tough call but I like the ole' shooting the ducks from the barrel scenario and that's what will happen if the bg/bgs walk up those stairs for me.

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"When guns are outlawed;I will be an outlaw."
 
Two Points:<UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI> Engineer, If you do contact the police (via a cell phone which wasn't in the original example), you would remain in contact with the '911' operator. When they arrived, you would instruct them to your bedroom window and throw them your keys so that they could enter your house and clear the first floor. During this entire time, you would be talking to the operator and inform her that NOBODY comes up the stairs without being fired upon. Once the first floor is cleared, the operator would inform you of that, you would secure your weapon so that the LEO could come upstairs. If the police do not want to coorporate and I CAN'T identify them as LEO when they're coming up the stairs, they WILL be fired upon. The good thing about being on the phone with the '911' operator is that the entire conversation is being recorded and can be used in your defense ... you've informed her that anyone coming up the stairs will be fired upon and if she hasn't told you that it IS the LEO coming up the stairs then you can reasonably assume that the LEO was overpowered and the individual is now armed with the LEO's gun.
<LI> Will, I completely agree with you that as long as I hear activity going on downstairs, I will remain upstairs behind cover ready to fire at anyone coming up the stairs (as I already would have issued a warning that anyone coming up the stairs will be fired upon). But what happens if you don't hear anything going on downstairs? What happens if the person breaking in, cut himself up and left to tend to his injury? What happens if it wasn't even a break-in but a neighborhood brat who rode past your house on his bike and threw a rock through your window? What happens, as someone else indicated, if something fell downstairs (such as dishes, glasses on a shelf, etc.)? If you're in a sound sleep, you're not going to be able to tell the difference between one type of glass breakage and another. You say that you are willing to wait all night at the top of the stairs if you have to -- and maybe that IS the best thing to do. But the point is, sooner or later you have to go downstairs and when you do, you are going to have to clear the house. Even if you just want to get to the phone to call the police, you still have to do some type of house clearly to ensure that nobody sneaks up on you when you're on the phone. As you said, maybe it's best to wait until sunrise so that you can better see what's going on and not face the unknown in darkness. Either way it's a tough call.
<LI> Finally (point #3 -- I know, I can't count), it's NOT a good idea to shoot at the neighbor's window to get their attention as someone could be walking by and you might end up shooting them. Or, it could go through the house and into another house and hit somebody there. You may want to throw something at their window and cause their glass to break at 2:30 in the morning as well ;)</UL>
 
I believe you HAVE to clear the house. Sure, you could defend the top of the stairs until sunrise, but what if they don't go away? What if they hang around till your daughter gets home from her sleepover, then you have to listen to her being raped? What if they get hacked off because they can't get to you, run out to the garage for the lawn mower gas can, and set the house ablaze?
 
My reference was to SHOUT out of your window to a neighbor. NOT, shoot AT their window with your gun. From your above reference in point #3. :)
 
VictorLouis, sorry -- kept scanning my own posts for the error and counldn't find it because I misread your's instead :o
 
Not for sure what I'd do. I have a dog, and he would probably alert us. I can't see myself clearing the house, unless I needed to clear the rooms my kids were in to get them to the "safe" room. The wife would be on the cel phone and going for the gun safe key.

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Belch, loudly. Brush off at least some of the empty beers bottles, which crash, loudly, on the floor. Then proceed to wake up "Ethel". Exclaim, loudly, "Hey Ethel! Wake up! Git yore gun and go downstairs and shoot that a*****e! And git me another beer, too, dammit!" Go back to sleep. 'nuff said...well, sort of. I suppose this is intended to be a "serious" discussion of the tactics involving a (possible) intruder in your home. huh. If he/she is already IN YOUR HOME before you're awake, you are already serious behind the curve here. If you're awake before he/she has gained entrance, better, but if you allow yourself to live in a domicle where this kind of scenario places you and/or your loved ones in jeopadry...oh well, better luck next time. Meanwhile, now that me and Ethel are awake, we might as well have some fun....stay safe.
 
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