ISRAEL last night threatened to assassinate Palestinian Prime Minister Ismael Haniyeh

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Israel warns: free soldier or PM dies
Middle East correspondent Martin Chulov
July 01, 2006
ISRAEL last night threatened to assassinate Palestinian Prime Minister Ismael Haniyeh if Hamas militants did not release a captured Israeli soldier unharmed.
The unprecedented warning was delivered to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas in a letter as Israel debated a deal offered by Hamas to free Corporal Gilad Shalit.

It came as Israeli military officials readied a second invasion force for a huge offensive into Gaza.

Hamas's Gaza-based political leaders, including Mr Haniyeh, had already gone into hiding.

But last night's direct threat to kill Mr Haniyeh, a democratically elected head of state, sharply raised the stakes.
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I've always liked Israel,,but I don't think I'm behind them on this one.
 
The Israelis have always played for keeps. I suspect this mentality derives from being surrounded by mortal enemies on all sides.
I think they sometimes create their own problems (like this situation)....but I don't think Palestine is going to exist much longer.
 
The Israelies been through alot of crap for many years. If they decide on assassinating, kidnapping, nuking, whatever, then more power to them.

After all, you got to defend the homeland at all costs, right?
 
I think they sometimes create their own problems (like this situation)....
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If I remember correctly, Hamas dug a tunnel into Israel, killed two soldiers and kidnapped this one. I don't think that qualifies as a self created problem.
 
Why not give the soldier back? If you want to run with the big dogs be ready to play with the big dogs also. Was thier any doubt in the terrorist leadership that this would cause a problem?

We told Afghanistan to give up Bin Laden. The Taliban leadership was hostile to the US and also provided training and staging safe havens for terrorists. We invaded the country and started hunting the Taliban down and killing them.

I see no difference in the two.
 
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Hamas thought that since United States just let two soldiers get taken and suffered no ill for it that they could get away with it with the Israelis.
They were wrong. Israel will do everything it can to get one lowly corporal back. Is it cost effective? Probably not but to not do anything will only make them bolder.
United States could learn a lot from Israel on this.

The lesson we need to take away from this is that for everyone of our soldiers they kill,kidnap, or injure, it needs to come back on them 1000fold.

I personally do not think that we should have gone to Iraq to begin with, but as we are there,our troops should be able to do what they were trained to do. We can not pull out at this point and the country needs to be pacified.
 
yep!!! the isrealies are the one's who take of business!! and the as far as i can see the palisinians have what ever happens coming................
 
Isreal doesn't play by the rules when it comes to self-denfese. Despite idealogical difference I think we can learn a few lessons from them!!!
 
I recall many years ago an incident where one of the terrorist groups staged a particularly vicious attack against Israel.

The head of the terrorist group lived on the other side of the Gulf.

Mossad agents crossed the Gulf by submarine, and then went to shore in a raft. They went to the terrorist leader's home and killed him and his family.

Then the agents went home.
 
"Hamas thought that since United States just let two soldiers get taken and suffered no ill for it that they could get away with it with the Israelis.
They were wrong. Israel will do everything it can to get one lowly corporal back. Is it cost effective? Probably not but to not do anything will only make them bolder.
United States could learn a lot from Israel on this.

The lesson we need to take away from this is that for everyone of our soldiers they kill,kidnap, or injure, it needs to come back on them 1000fold."

I have to agree with this statement 100%, no matter who it is that takes them.
 
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/Got to side with Israel on this one.
//"Sometimes the only way to get any peace at all is to let everyone know that they should leave you the hell alone." - Someone on THR.
 
Abndoc,
If I remember correctly, Hamas dug a tunnel into Israel, killed two soldiers and kidnapped this one. I don't think that qualifies as a self created problem.
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No, that in itself does not qualify as a self-created problem. But that incident didn't occur in a vacuum. Israel has been surrounded by mortal enemies since it's creation and they have every right to fight for their lives. *But* they've done their fair share of antagonizing also.
The Arab-Israeli conflict is a game of tit-for-tat writ large.
 
This whole situation is pretty sad in my opinion. Israel way over powers Palestine but only attacks military targets or military leaders. Palestine would have no chance against Israel in an all out war so they resort to terrorism and killing civilians. I think Rodney King said it best... "Can't we all just get along?"

The US called for a free election in Palestine and Hamas took power. Hamas is a friggin terrorist organization. Since they have officially refused to acknowledge Israel, I don't know how this situation is going to get resolved. I think they might have to take a few pages from the play book of the Koreas and create a huge demilitarized zone. Anyone who crosses is fair game. As for people working in Israel but living in Palestine, create very secure check points similar to what we have at airport security.

The saddest thing is that I don't really believe that this conflict will ever really end.
 
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Yea, but lately Israel has been seriously trying to let the palestinians govern themselves. They have been given a chance to play nice. Israel has really been bending over backwards to try and be nice. Doesn't seem to be working.
 
Unless the Palestinians are willing to accept the existence of Israel and give up the physical right of return, there will never be peace.

There could have been a Palestinian state by now except for this. Using Israel as a scapegoat for problems serves the interest of many in the region and thus, there is no drive by various groups to come to peace.

Perhaps, the Palestinian populace would like peace but those who constitue their rulers or power centers don't want peace.

Israel is moving towards a forced separation of their country from the Palestinians as they are getting nowhere with rational negotiations. It would serve the economic interests of the Palestinians to have peace. There is work and economic development that has been shut down. However, it is not in the culture to give up hatreds.

Look at the Shia vs. Sunni conflict - still fighting over the supposed successor to Mohammed which has generated such undying hatred. Who cares?

It is hard to find value in religion if theological trivia generates such hatred that lasts for 1000s of years. Certainly, the West has its share of fighting and killing over such crap.
 
We could learn from President Washington who said "avoid foreign entanglements" and from Israel as to the way to maintain our borders while doing so.
 
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