Is this a shooter?

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Big Bill and Shortwave,

First I must say if I could hunt the way I wanted, that being within reasonable driving distance from my house so I can hunt on weekends, I would love nothing more than to hunt by some other method!

But one thing that always gets me a little riled is people that plant 2 acre food plots or even hunt over fields where grain has been planted and then shoot arrows at those of us who hunt using feeders. And one more point, where I have hunted this being the second year, if we did not feed the deer using feeders a whole lot of the deer would have starved to death during the 2 year drought we just went through. Baiting has long been used to take game and to me your are either in or out...can not have it both ways.

Next as far as ethical hunting and fair chase. I still struggle with people using the ethical statement...If you follow the laws of your state and abide by them then as far as I am concerned you are hunting ethically. Now me saying that does not mean that I agree with everyone elses methods.

So what methods are they? Well I personally could not hunt in a high fenced area. It simply is not what I believe it is supposed to be. And I really struggle with engineering massive bucks. For anyone who goes on a hunt like this and then takes a big buck...I am happy for you if that is what you chose to do but for me that is no more of a trophy that the little 7 point I have on the wall in my den. Heck to me I would say it is actually less than a trophy. Again just my opinion.

The next and I am going to stop here is LONG RANGE hunting. That being people that shoot at game at 1000 yards give or take. I have real issues with this one. The chance of wounding an animal and then not being able to recover it goes up dramatically and it is simply inhumane to me.

But this thread was never supposed to be about the above and I really did not want to get into it.

And yes Big Bill I guess I am a little sensitive because with all we have discussed here I do not think we have accomplished anything and would think we are giving those that want to eliminate hunting all together more ammo to shoot at us. I think we can choose to leave out things that we know is going to start a rumble in our world and make sure that as long as we are following the laws in our states then we support one another completely.
 
When it comes to Trophy hunting and the thrill of a kill, I canot lend my support. When it comes to putting food on the table, then you do whatever it takes..baiting..etc..

It's ok to disagree.
 
Is that a trick question?

Here in North Carolina that would be the State Record.

Absolutely! Especially in Western North Carolina where I am. I work just down the road from a man who processes deer. He will process around one-hundred or so during the season, and a very rare few are that impressive.
 
I would let them walk

They may be 3.5 or even 2.5 years old. Either one could be a real trophy given another year. If you're worried about someone else shooting them, go ahead and take one.
 
Seriously?

Those are bigger bucks than most hunters in NY state will see in their entire lives. Not to mention, if I don't shoot it then the neighbor will. No brainer.
 
I very strongly suggest that folks refrain from hijacking a thread with snarky comments about how others hunt, when the others hunt in a legal fashion according to the laws and customs of their area.

There is a lot of legal and customary stuff that goes on that I don't particularly like, but that doesn't mean I have to run off at the mouth about it.
 
I SEE the side of Hunting a Feeder being "UNethical" (kind of), I do understand the "logic" behind it, BUT, if I had the opportunity to hunt a nice and Very Active Feeder as the one You have, and Fine Whitetail Deer LIKE THOSE, You can bet Your FINEST RIFLE I'd be there!!!

Either one of those deer are shooters. And again, if I had that opportunity, I'd ask to hunt that feeder MySelf, if I lived closer!!!

These are hard times, Bro's, but even if things were great, I'd make/take a "hunt" (kill) at that feeder. With a GOOD Heart!

Get 'Em, DeerHunter! :D :cool: Bring Home the Bacon!

Spicy Cayshun Deer Sausish, Anyone???
 
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NOPE!!! NOT SHOOTER DEER!!!!
Can you inagine the risk involved in field dressing them and carrying them out like a back pack? Any other hunter in the woods would just have to take a shot putting you at risk:eek:
Brent
 
koolminx, Some like being in a war zone. Ohio and I`ll turn ya loose in Wayne Nat`l Forrest opening day of shotgun season.
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OK, I can totally understand THAT view point... I've been there in Maryland and done that but I still went.

I apologize if you thought I said that leasing land is unethical, that is not the part I find unethical. The unethical part I feel angst towards is better left out or lent to another thread. I apologize also to Art for going OT, and to Simon for being an ass in his thread, I should have started my own if I wanted to be a butt-head...

Shoot those tasty deer and send me some Sausage Simon!


Later,


K
 
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Well, let me drop my two pennies!

I stand hunted the same lease for nearly thirty years. At that time, in Texas, if you were fortunate enough to own enough land, you didn't have to lease. If you didn't own enough, well, it was either lease, papermill land, public land or somebody kind enough to LET you hunt their place.
I always wanted to bait, but the cattle would take over any baited area and the electronic feeders were not available at that time. (yeah, I'm a dinosaur!)
From there to today, things have happened. Thanks to a young lady that thought the radio was more important than the lane she was driving in, I have a titanium hip and a crushed foot. I don't walk now like I usta!
I never had the ability to slip along to still hunt deer, they always spotted me first. Even though, I've killed a couple while walking. Anymore, I use feeders and food plots. Just because deer come to them, doesn't mean I shoot them. Since I can no longer walk, this gives me the opportunity to see what's in the area, select the deer I want, and do some culling if necessary. I am still within the game laws of the state I live in. I check the laws each year to be certain that the laws haven't changed.
P.S. - I'd probably take the larger one.
 
Dearhunter, those deer look as though they`re just reaching their breeding prime. Think I`d pass for a few years and keep those genes alive in the herd. Probably a bigger,more mature dominant buck(maybe those deer`s daddy) in the area thats passed its prime to take. YMMV.
 
Actually guys it is both. Last year when I hunted this place I had hogs and cattle run the deer off. Amazing. I told some other guys on the lease what happened and they were shocked. They had never seen it before. Then this past weekend I was there and sitting in my stand and looking at the feeder that is in the photos and cattle ran off 5 does and yearlings. I had shoveled all of the corn you see laying on the ground out of the pen and had thrown it outside the pen and that is where the deer were standing when the cattle started moving toward them and ran them off.

I have another feeder that can be seen by the same stand and I do not have a pen around it.

Also I want to thank all of you who responded and especially to those who weighed in and help explain what we are dealing with here in TX.

Thanks!
 
ANd after much consideration I am going to try to pass on that buck. Perhaps if I see it in Dec and have not got a better one by then I will take it...that is assuming I even see it.

Last year the weekend before the season started I saw a magnificent 10 pointer. It was extremely tall and wide and very cemetrical...not sure if the spelling is correct...but I nor anyone else on my lease saw that buck during the season. So once the season begins I have learned all bets are off!
 
No...it is no secret...well perhaps it is...because I do not even know...never gave it much thought so I have never measured them. Sorry.
 
The thing to remember about deer hunting is that the way it is conducted is different in every state. Each state has its own Department of Wildlife or Fish and Game or whatever, that lays down rules and regulations as to what is a legal means of take in that particular state and when you can do it. What may seem unfair in one state has no bearing as to what is fair in another state. As long as the gane was taken according to the Laws and Regulations for that state, it is fine with me.
 
I personally think it is awesome that you have the opportunity to hunt. You are blessed! There are a lot of people that don't have that luxury. I was always taught that only the wealthy hunted in Texas, due to the lack of public land. I guess this is accurate??? Here in southcentral Pennsylvania, there is public land on every mountain-top...well over 100,000 acres in my county alone. Hunting can be very difficult with massive tracts of forest, limited numbers of deer on the mountains, abundant (or sometimes nearly non-existant) mast crops, etc. The bucks in your photos are magnificent, IMO. You shouldn't have to defend yourself in regards to the hunting methods practiced in you region. I am sure if I was raised in Texas and had the opportunity to hunt, I would do the same as you. Thanks for sharing your photos... and have a blast in your stand this season!
 
Not in my opinion though the bucks are nice they are tame baited animals. I would never hunt near or over bait HOWEVER I live out west where most mountainous counties have @80% public land. I have never had to hunt in an area that was all private with limited hunting opportunities. So without having experenced hunting back east I cant judge anyone or anything till I have had the opportunity to do so.
 
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