Is this 9mm really as good as my .45?

.45acp, Colt

You have a great gun, but hear are some very great rounds:
1. Winchester, Ranger-SXT 235gr JHP
2. Federal Tactical Series
3. Speer Gold Dot 235gr JHP
4. Cor-Bon Power R Ball
 
Hey guys, I don't want to trade my rig.

As I mentioned before, after going through 20 guns the Colt CCO is tops for me. 9mm I have owned include Sig P225, Sig P239, Kahr K9, Glock 19. I am just curious to know what 9mm gun/ammo combination under 32 ounces gives you as much confidence as my Colt 45 gives me.

By and large, most 9mm setups are no smaller and no more ergonomic than my 45 set up. So I always ask myself the question: if for the same weight and general bulk (more or less) I can carry a 45, why not carry the 45?

My Kahr was pretty sweet but not 100% reliable.
The Glock was OK but as bulky as my Colt, and grip angle caused me to point high.
The Sig P225 was a sweetheart but as bulky as my Colt
The Sig P239 was a sweetheart, grip a little too reduced, and really just as bulky (width wise) as my Colt.

So I keep coming back to the Colt CCO 45 as the best combination of weight, bulk, and power. Not to mention the virtues of single action trigger, ergonomic safety, and slim magazines for IWB carry.

Thanks in advance for you impressions.
 
As a lot of the replies have said in different words: "Whatever floats your boat."

IMO, the MOST important thing to have in any rig is confidence that it will perform for you and you will perform with it in any imagined scenario you might find yourself needing it in.

Of course, that doesn't mean you shouldn't try out other gun/holster/ammo combinations from time to time if the opportunity arises....
 
>>.45 LC was no more effective in stopping a drugged up Moro
>>than the .38 Special

I find this very difficult to believe. Let me see, 45 ACP, 230 grain ball at 850+ vs. 45 Colt 255 grain at 900. The Colt is throwing more weight at higher velocity. I would not hesitate to pick up a Colt with this cartridge configuration and have confidence in this load to stop people.

justinr1
 
I could be wrong here, but I think the natives also wrapped themselves tightly with cloth strips before attacking.
This kept them from bleeding much, and the drugs kept them from feeling much pain.
Seems like I have read about other groups using the tight binding quite effectively to keep from bleeding out.

Edited to add:
I don't how much peace of mind you get, but I never feel under-armed with my Kahr MK9 with 7 rounds of Hydra Shok.
I think it probably conceals a little easier than your Colt.

I tried .45 as a carry gun, but ammo expense kept me from practicing as much as I feel I should if I am going to go armed.
 
1. Winchester, Ranger-SXT 235gr JHP
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You know....I thought my .45 seemed a bit heavier lately. Must have been the 5 grains..:D

Well, perhaps my brain is primitive, but I look at the big ol .45 bullet and feel more confident with that than the much smaller 9mm bullet. Don't get me wrong, I do carry a 9mm a lot, but I do so because of size constraints. When I am afforded the opportunity to carry a larger weapon I prefer the .45 caliber.

As I've said before. I see a lot of 9mm wounds on folks at the prison. I have yet to see a .45. And the one .45 Colt that I have seen was on an ol boy who decided to run from a Sheriff in Oklahoma. Sheriff was using a SA Colt. Bad Guy now is in a wheelchair and has a colostomy bag.

Good SHooting
RED
 
I had thought the advent of the 40 S&W and the 357 SIG had kind of taken the wind out of the old 9mm vs 45 ACP debate. This thread proves I was wrong.

Some minor historical points on previous posts. The issue cartridge for the US Army that failed in the Philippines was the 38 Long Colt, the immediate predicessor of the 38 S&W Special. The 38 S&W is a different cartridge intirely. The failure of the 38 Long Colt to "stop" was a major factor leading to the 45 ACP but that took some time to come about. In the short term, the Army re-issued Colt SAAs in 45 Colt and they were somewhat more effective than the 38 Long Colt. As is true in modern times, drugged individuals are hard to stop with handguns of any persusation. I have read accounts of Moro finatics who were not stopped with chest cavity hits from the 30 US (30-40 Kraig).
 
Dogger

You said that your Kahr K 9 wasn't that reliable. Could you give us details? Including what ammo you were using in it? I'm planning on getting one very soon.
 
squire, I bought my K9 NIB years ago, I want to say December of 1996 or 1997. I put upwards of 600 rounds through it with a variety of hardball loads and hollowpoints. I can't remember all the loads but they included Georgia Arms, Speer Lawman, Magtech, and some premium varieties: Corbon 115 grainers, Speer 124 grain Gold Dots, Federal Hydrashok. I couldn't get through 100 rounds without 2 or 3 failures to feed. After 600 rounds I figured it had had enough "break in" and since it was not 100% I let it go. The final straw was the pin for the trigger was working out the side. So I traded it. I also found that it would only strip the first round reliably if you started from slide lock. Since I sometimes carry with magazine inserted and chamber empty that was a NoGo for me. My personal opinion is that because the gun is so small and tight it doesn't have the geometry to allow some slop for reliable feeding of all brands of ammo, and this same geometry makes chambering from slide lock a necessity. Just my unscientific wild guess.

I would not construe my experiences as being true of all Kahrs. Perhaps I had a lemon. It sure was a sweet gun otherwise!!
 
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