Allen_Raiford
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Whats so great about this pistol?
Are they reliable?
Accurate?
How does the finish hold up?
Are they reliable?
Accurate?
How does the finish hold up?
Is the P7M8 really worth a grand?
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smith_6288
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Yes, they are absolutely worth $1000, even more, but you can get them much cheaper than that. I know of one shop here in Orem, Utah that has it for $699. They are extremely reliable, extremely accurate (I doubt that you will shoot anything as accurate as the P7), and the finish holds up great. You can send it to be hard chromed, but I have an M8 and an M13 and neither have been hard chromed. They still look wonderful. The entire P7 series is first rate, the Mercedes Benz of firearms. The P7 is a great carry gun because it is so thin. Very easy to conceal and very safe. It is the one gun that I have never hesitated to carry hot. You can have a round in the hole and pull the trigger all day without the thing going off. As I am sure you are aware, the P7 is totally useless unless the squeeze cocker is engaged. The feature also makes it really hard for a bad guy to use the gun against you if by chance he gets your gun away from you. Most bad guys in that situation are probably too scared or too hopped up on drugs to realize how the P7 functions. I could go on and on about why the P7 is a great gun. Find a range in your area that has one to rent and give it a dance. You'll see.
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Allen_Raiford
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Lord help me, I handled one today and I think I am hooked. I will rent one and try it out.
Yep! Its worth every penny of the $1005 I paid for my NIB M8 last year... and then bought a refurb for $600 6 weeks later.
Ditto what smith_6288 said. The only production 9mm that will usually outshoot the M8 is Sig's P210.
The P7M8-
•accurate
•reliable
•easy to conceal
•great trigger
•loves hot ammo....
I'm going to have my refinished someday, either Black-T or hrd chromed, so far the finish has held up well with normal maintenance
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Ditto what smith_6288 said. The only production 9mm that will usually outshoot the M8 is Sig's P210.
The P7M8-
•accurate
•reliable
•easy to conceal
•great trigger
•loves hot ammo....
I'm going to have my refinished someday, either Black-T or hrd chromed, so far the finish has held up well with normal maintenance
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BKs Pistol Pages
YES IT IS. It's one of the classics.I bought mine after seeing the video that HK sells.I've never considered the price after that.A fine pistol to last a lifetime.Even I can shoot it quite well,and hit what I am aiming at.Very accurate. Get one when you can.you will never regret it.
A NIB P7M8 will set you back $1000-$1100 at present.
Is it "worth it"? Well, to me, yes. I have two.
There's no better gun in 9mm for CCW.
(This includes the nice flat magazines' making carry of spares easy.)
The 9mm cartridge is adequately powerful with careful load & bullet weight-configuration choice.
The P7 is both accurate & precise.
The trigger is single action, 4.0-4.5 lb.
The trigger action is ALWAYS THE SAME.
No safer gun exists, that is, no gun exists which is capable of being brought into action INSTANTLY, but is at the same time safer than the H&K P7 series.
No gun is more reliable, including revolvers.
The design is unique (or was, 'till partially & poorly copied by the Vector & one of the Hi-Point line, I think), and the engineering is well executed, of quality materials.
It's "worth it" to me.
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"Potius sero quam nunquam."
Is it "worth it"? Well, to me, yes. I have two.
There's no better gun in 9mm for CCW.
(This includes the nice flat magazines' making carry of spares easy.)
The 9mm cartridge is adequately powerful with careful load & bullet weight-configuration choice.
The P7 is both accurate & precise.
The trigger is single action, 4.0-4.5 lb.
The trigger action is ALWAYS THE SAME.
No safer gun exists, that is, no gun exists which is capable of being brought into action INSTANTLY, but is at the same time safer than the H&K P7 series.
No gun is more reliable, including revolvers.
The design is unique (or was, 'till partially & poorly copied by the Vector & one of the Hi-Point line, I think), and the engineering is well executed, of quality materials.
It's "worth it" to me.
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"Potius sero quam nunquam."
Sold mine for $700.00 and already wish I would have kept it. The P7M8 is a cool little pop gun. However, there are other firearms that I actually like better. You will find there is a cult like following that thinks the pistol is the greatest thing going.
The only things I disliked about mine were:
1. It is a 9mm.
2. It is butt heavy and doesn't carry as well as others.
3. I disliked the squeeze cock when shooting weak hand only.
4. Can't shoot lead.
On the plus side, accurate as heck and mine never, ever failed to feed.
The only things I disliked about mine were:
1. It is a 9mm.
2. It is butt heavy and doesn't carry as well as others.
3. I disliked the squeeze cock when shooting weak hand only.
4. Can't shoot lead.
On the plus side, accurate as heck and mine never, ever failed to feed.
I really like my P7.
Kind of sad that it's at HK for repairs. After shooting it two weeks ago I could not get the slide off. I'm not sure what the problem was...so I'll post an update when I find out.
It functioned perfectly- but I just could not remove the slide.
Don't know if I'd buy it again because I'm kind of hot on a custom 1911 in .45. Guess it depends how much I like the 1911.
I greatly prefer the P7M8 over my Sig 226 in 9mm. I really like the crisp trigger and no change in trigger pull after the first shot.
Plus, it points so naturally. At the IPSC matches there's always some shots that I think I've missed badly...but they usually turn out right on.
In summary, it's a very neat gun and also very expensive. I do not regret buying it.
Dave
Kind of sad that it's at HK for repairs. After shooting it two weeks ago I could not get the slide off. I'm not sure what the problem was...so I'll post an update when I find out.
It functioned perfectly- but I just could not remove the slide.
Don't know if I'd buy it again because I'm kind of hot on a custom 1911 in .45. Guess it depends how much I like the 1911.
I greatly prefer the P7M8 over my Sig 226 in 9mm. I really like the crisp trigger and no change in trigger pull after the first shot.
Plus, it points so naturally. At the IPSC matches there's always some shots that I think I've missed badly...but they usually turn out right on.
In summary, it's a very neat gun and also very expensive. I do not regret buying it.
Dave
The P7M8 is awesome - I bought a refurbished one for ~800$ and I love it. I don't think I'll ever part with this one.
I have learned a few things about it that I didn't know when i bought it:
1. It gets hot when you shoot it. The frame/trigger guard area becomes very hot after apox. 100-150 rounds. *very* hot.
2. Putting it back together the first time you take it apart is, um, interesting. Good luck.
3. There is a slide lock above the magazine release. Took me a month to notice it. Wonder how long most people take to find it?
I have learned a few things about it that I didn't know when i bought it:
1. It gets hot when you shoot it. The frame/trigger guard area becomes very hot after apox. 100-150 rounds. *very* hot.
2. Putting it back together the first time you take it apart is, um, interesting. Good luck.
3. There is a slide lock above the magazine release. Took me a month to notice it. Wonder how long most people take to find it?
thequickad
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I would say Engineerig and Construction wise, it is definitely "you get what you pay for". Yes the P7M8 is worth $1K. However, it is a heavy pistol and only holds 8-rd of 9mm. Also the squeeze-cock makes the grip feels bigger than it really is. If you are looking to just own it, fine. Otherwise, know what you want the pistol for before spending $1K.
I like many others think it is worth it.
I liked it so much that I stopped shooting anything else.
I would buy the refurbished model to see if it is for you.
For more info check out these sites: http://www.unsuave.com/~hkpro/home.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/indie/p7cult/main.html
http://www.parkcitiestactical.com/
I liked it so much that I stopped shooting anything else.
I would buy the refurbished model to see if it is for you.
For more info check out these sites: http://www.unsuave.com/~hkpro/home.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/indie/p7cult/main.html
http://www.parkcitiestactical.com/
Dave Finfrock
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It's worth it and then some. It doesn't get any better than the P7. I have two, and wouldn't part with them for anything.
It's just too bad HK never saw fit to go ahead with the P7M7. I would have sold every gun I had for two of those.
It's just too bad HK never saw fit to go ahead with the P7M7. I would have sold every gun I had for two of those.
I would agree. Although I am biased 
Anyways, as I said elsewhere the squeeze cocker mechanism makes cocking, decocking/safing and slide releasing quicker and more instinctive than any other firearm. Add a fixed barrel and you have an accurate, sweet little package.
Heating problems occur only if you are determined to empty magazines quickly. I have a PSP (European version of M8) and I need to cycle through 4 magazines to reach uncomfortable heat levels. I usually shoot a couple of mags, reload and repeat. Then again I am working on my marksmanship, not unloading as quickly as possibly.
I am curious if Big Dave has run into problems in IPSC with heat. I have had none in IDPA competition.
Anyways, as I said elsewhere the squeeze cocker mechanism makes cocking, decocking/safing and slide releasing quicker and more instinctive than any other firearm. Add a fixed barrel and you have an accurate, sweet little package.
Heating problems occur only if you are determined to empty magazines quickly. I have a PSP (European version of M8) and I need to cycle through 4 magazines to reach uncomfortable heat levels. I usually shoot a couple of mags, reload and repeat. Then again I am working on my marksmanship, not unloading as quickly as possibly.
I am curious if Big Dave has run into problems in IPSC with heat. I have had none in IDPA competition.
The P7 is very unusual and that is part of the appeal.(For me) It is also a HK When you go to the range you don't see them very often. The M13 is not being imported for civilian so I had to have one. The trigger breaks around 5 lbs everytime.
Very accurate
The most rounds that I have fired between cleanings was 500 rounds of factory ammo with no problems.
The only problem I have run across is if the gun has to much Oil.
Finish bought mine used Production was 84 - finish approx 90 to 95%
Best of luck --- BY THE BY Mags for the M13 are high.
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When you go to the range you don't see them very often. The M13 is not being imported for civilian so I had to have one. The trigger breaks around 5 lbs everytime. Very accurate
The most rounds that I have fired between cleanings was 500 rounds of factory ammo with no problems.
The only problem I have run across is if the gun has to much Oil.
Finish bought mine used Production was 84 - finish approx 90 to 95%
Best of luck --- BY THE BY Mags for the M13 are high.
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The heating up is a prob in a combat course or the possibility of extended firing. I had one it was a nice weapon, but not for me. Weight and bulk of the M13 coupled with the heat prob, outweighed the M13 for duty usage. For a duty 9mm the Glock 19 or 17 fit the bill.
Those having probs affording the M13 mags use the M10 mags. They hold all 13 rds of 9mm and this practice has been approved by H&K. I got the tip from a Tactical instructor. The M10 mags run around $70 new while the M13 mags run $100 used.
Be Safe
Mike
Those having probs affording the M13 mags use the M10 mags. They hold all 13 rds of 9mm and this practice has been approved by H&K. I got the tip from a Tactical instructor. The M10 mags run around $70 new while the M13 mags run $100 used.
Be Safe
Mike