Is muzzle energy a pointless descriptor for handgun rounds?

Hmm, I hadn't thought of that, but the only condition where I can see that would matter would be a pneumothorax, and that would not at all contribute to immediate incapacitation, although you could take comfort in the fact that if whoever you shot was still alive, they sure weren't going to be happy for a while. Until an EMT decompresses their chest, at least.
 
I'm basing my opinion on about 40 shootings of miscreants and attacking dogs, with which I am familiar, and about that many head of game taken with handguns. I'm soundly convinced that two holes results in faster shutdown in quadrapeds.

I wasn't operating the handgun in all those instances, just FWIW, but I had credible reporting on all of them.
 
That is probably correct but until around the early 1960s, maybe earlier, maybe later, there was little difference in the bullets used in handgun cartridges, at least as they came from the factory. Revolvers used lead bullets, autos used full metal jackets. There were also full metal jacket revolver loads, too. Hollowpoints had been around since before WWI but were apparently not common. However, the 1940 Stoeger catalog listed hollowpoints for both .30 Luger and 9mm Luger as well as .38 Super. There was also "soft point" for autos, too. But outside of the catalogs, you'd never know anyone used them. Maybe no one did. They may have been hard to find.

Things began to change when ligher hollow points at a higher velocity were made available from the old Super Vel. Most ammo companies eventually began introducing their own varieties of hollow point ammo and +P loads as well. Nowadays there's a huge variety of commercial loads available for just about everything, although finding some of it may take some searching. The projectiles have changed but I'd also say that muzzle energy is important to most of the premium cartridges.

Penetration has always been recognized as important, too, and the old catalogs generally gave penetration results in pine boards for handgun ammunition.
 
I see your point crow hunter and agree blanket statements can be misleading and I have a tendency to use them to ill-effect.
 
ME is a great indicator of recoil, imo. The more recoil a round has, the less it will be practiced with, the more flinch the shooter will have, the less accurate it will TEND to be shot... this is why the big-daddy thumpber 50WE revolver is not being bought by the thousands. It's too much for most of us.

But terminal performance is all about bullet construction, good shooting, etc. I don't care how much muzzle energy a bullet has, if it's made out of wood or styrofoam, it won't be very effective at any real range.

But, comparing a 22lr to a 50 cal is dumb. Comparing the 338mag to the 416 is more interesting :)
 
Short answer: yes....

To answer the basic question, I'd say; yes. KE levels are important.

When selecting a carry or duty round, you should seek the most powerful load with the highest vel you can manage or shoot well(best marksmanship).

Some gun experts & training instructors say "shot placement" is most important in defensive handgun shooting but I'd add that proper JHPs or ammunition is highly important too.
KE will increase the change of a "shock" or "trauma" when you fire.
A 10mm or .357sig round that hits a violent subject may cause a faster reaction than a subject hit with a .380acp, .22LR or .25acp in the exact same spot.
Years ago, I watched a 1980s era VHS(remember that format :) ) video where a "firearms" instructor stated that KE levels were "not important".
I sat in the class & openly disagreed with his remarks, explaining why I considered KE levels & ballistics to be a value.

Clyde
 
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