Is it just me??

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frigate88

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Is it just me or does anyone else feel like bouncing a baseball of a persons head who's says " this gun is more accurate than that one". I don't care what kind of gun you shoot whether it's a 1911, sig, glock, taurus, s&w so on and so forth. To me, if you make a comment like that people should be allowed to put a piece of duct tape over your mouth for the rest of day. Especially the 1911 groupies. Don't take that to harsh groupies. I have 2 1911's myself, (next to my 10 glocks, hehe). Does anyone else feel that way?
 
Not me, so I guess it is just you. Don't bother with the little things, and life will be more pleasant.
Jerry
 
umm there is variance between individual examples of each model, and you may chance upon a specific Glock that shoots as accurately as a specific Kahr T example, but statistically I guarantee you the Kahr T models are more accurate than the Glocks.

I have owned/shot extensively a Hi-Point, Keltec, glock, and kahr 9mm. Off hand slow fire I get significantly more accurate as I progress through those pistols. When I moved up the line I pretty much thought I had maxed my effective accuracy and that the gun was not holding me back. Each time I was proved wrong and the accuracy each afforded me allowed me to improve my shooting. The Kahr probably has some ergonomic advantages and a longer sight radius since it is their target model, but the others are about the same.

Full size 1911 in 38 super is probably next :)
 
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Some guns are more accurate than other guns. That's just the way it is. Don't understand why this irritates you. Look into the way they test accuracy in different handguns. You might find it interesting.
 
I'm going to surmise, that if you couple the fact that some handguns are more accurate than others, with that whole baseball off someone's head idea...its probably gonna be just you.
 
Maybe I should read my posts before posting them. I admit that it sounds a lot more harsh than what I intended it to be. Yes, I agree. If you take a pistol designed for Olympic style shooting or some other higher end pistol designed some what like that and put it in a vice with a standard stock mass produced production pistol I agree 100% that higher end gun will hold a tighter grouping and be more accurate than the other. I'll give y'all the scenario. I was at the local range and 2 guys were arguing about who had the more accurate gun, it was glock 19 vs a sig .40. 2 totally different guns shooting 2 totally different rounds. But what really ****** my off is that they were doing it on the firing line waiving their guns around like idiots. That's what really got to me. But as for as production guns I still think accuracy is in the shooter, not the gun.
 
But what really ****** my off is that they were doing it on the firing line waiving their guns around like idiots. That's what really got to me. But as for as production guns I still think accuracy is in the shooter, not the gun.
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Accuracy is defined by the gun, the cartridge and the person shooting it. All of those make some guns more accurate than others. Deal with it.
 
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Its just you....:D

It is a fact that some guns are more accurate than others. Some individual guns are more accurate than others. Some models (designs) are more accurate than others. It is a proven fact, deal with it, and get on with your life.

Now, as to two morons arguing which of their service class pistols is more accurate, and waving their guns around while doing it, I admit that would vex me as well.

Accuracy is a combination of things. Practical accuracy is a combination of those things and more. There are some guns that while accurate in a machine rest, are not accurate in the shooters hands. OR in one shooter's hands, while doing much better in another's. Is that gun accurate, or not? For the fellow who can't shoot it well, its not accurate.

And, general statements about which one brand or model is the most accurate pistol is bull. Once can find very accurate examples, and poorly accurate examples, if one looks enough.

I've got a Colt Govt Model that will put 5 shots in one hole at 25yds (and do it in my hands! -even better!) I've got another that will put 5 shots in 5 inches at the same range, with the same ammo. So is it fair and correct to say the 1911 design is a) extremely accurate, or b) not accurate at all, based on these two guns?

I have a 9mm handgun that I'll bet will shoot a better group than your GLock, Sig, Beretta, Kahr, etc. I'd bet money on it. In fact, I have. And to date, I've never lost. Its a T/C Contender with a 9mm Luger barrel, and if I do my part it shoots one ragged hole at regular handgun ranges. What it doesn't do is shoot a group as rapidly as a service pistol. But it is more accurate than any tilt barrel automatic I have ever run across to date.

I have a scoped XP-100 .221 Fireball that can shoot a smaller group than my T/C 9mm, or nearly anything else. It is quite accurate. But its not a SD/combat gun. And was never meant to be. When someone makes a general statement about handguns, but fails to consider the broad range of what actually is a handgun, it just shows their ignorance.

I don't get mad, or irritated at people who argue their favorite auto is the most accurate handgun. I just consider the source, and their obvious lack of experience and inability to consider everything before spouting off.

"Pistol" includes any and all guns designed to be fired with one hand, or with two but not shouldered. So does the term "handgun". You might consider pointing that out to the braggarts, sometime.
 
a $2,000 handgun will be more accurate then a $2 one. Just sayin. With guns you get what you pay for. For example a custom built target .22 will do much better then a gun off the shelf. I have shot WW1 basic model colt that do good to hit the paper, after that a Kimbler that grouped in a quarter. Shooting has to do just as much with the shooter as well as the equipment. You cant expect a game chair warrior with no real firearm experience other then in Modern Warfare 3 and expect them to shoot as well as a seasoned veteran,or expedition shooter.
 
I find smugness irritating some times. On any given day there is nearly always someone who is better than you, a gun better than yours.
 
MTT I definitely agree with you. But like someone mentioned in a previous post, consider the source. Like these guys arguing at the range about who's pistol is more accurate. Even if yours is more accurate why denegrade someone else's pistol at the range? To make yourself feel smarter about our choice in pistols? It gives these kind of people that temporary warm fussy feeling inside that they are superiour. Until this feeling wears off and that empty inadequite feeling returns to them. Then they have to do the same kind of thing all over again to someone else. Someone who has some real confidence and self respect won't do this kind of thing. It's a challenge not to get defensive when these kind of people attack you but you are a better man if you can manage not to engage in their nonsense. From my exerience it's easier said than done but I've got a lot better at not letting it get to me just by being aware of it.
 
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