Is is legal to buy handguns out of state?

Wallew,

One point. BATF could care less about "sales". What the regulations address is "transfers". They don't really care if money changed hands or not. An out of state seller transfers the firearm to your FFL and he transfers it to you. He logs the firearm into his bound book as an aquisition and out again as a disposition.
 
You only need an FFL at your end, Alabama. If your FFL doesn't know the law a call to the regional BATF office in Atlanta will get that dealer a quich phone call to 'splain things to him. There is no question about it, it is legal. I had to do this with a bozo dealer on the SE coast of Ga. a couple of years ago. It is such a common question that BATF has it listed in their publication under the FAQ. How your purchase is shipped is another matter.
 
A lot of FFL's will only accept firearms shipments from another FFL. They may know that it is not legally required but do it as a CYA. They are perfectly within their rights to do so.
 
sw627pc, a quote:

(I picked Maryland because they change laws so often the ATF
can't even keep up with them ).

Not only the ATF cannot keep up with them, it appears the following cannot keep up with some of the latest Maryland gun laws:

Casper Taylor, Speaker of the House
Anti-gun Attorney General Curran and his office
Maryland State Police administrators
Maryland Gun Dealers
Firearms manufacturers and distributors everywhere.

Currently, it looks like a "pass the buck" exercise and food fight over the latest batch of Maryland gun laws. This is what happens when a powerful Governor pushes through the state assemblies laws so poorly written no one can even explain them except in vague terms, if that. :barf:
 
BTR

This is a question I have been stumping to customers since the "evolution" of that wonderful thing called the Brady Bill.

It still goes unanswered.

But, if enough people (gun buyers) start being burrs under the saddles of enough legislators, things may change.

In the mean time, buy what you want, when and where you can. Just don't over pay!
 
Well, I got my head handed to me last week for trying to interpret the law. Now I understand it (sort of). As for just going ahead and buying regardless of the law, I ain't gonna do it. I had contacted a private seller in Indiana about a gun advertised online. He was willing to do a face-to-face sale. But I don't know the guy. Could be he's the dutiful citizen and, as soon as we arrange a day and time, he's on the phone to the BATF and I don't leave Indiana for a long time. If it were someone I knew or who came recommended by someone I trust, that might be a different matter.

Dick
 
This particular foolish law is a major pain, and undoubtably makes criminals out of a bunch of otherwise law-abiding people. I currently live about 10 miles from the WA-ID border, about 30 miles from Spokane. There is a much larger selection of dealers there than locally, and the Spokane gun show is much larger than our local ones. The nearest large town in Idaho (Boise) is only about a 450 mile drive. It is an issue for a lot of us in the West, where distances between population centers is much greater than the East. What are the odds of placing enough pressure on our elected representatives to turn this one around.

Venting

Bri
 
There may be a little problem with the view that the ATF doesn't care about sales, only transfers. Technically, at the very core of their existence the folks at ATF are tax collectors. I know of a few cases in which the ATF has gone after individuals and dealers because the individual did not pay tax on a weapon he/she purchased from an out-of-state dealer--even though the tax in question was a state sales tax and has nothing to do with the federal government. It was just enough of an excuse for the camel to get its nose into the tent. In order to be on the safe side, some dealers, admittedly few in number, are collecting sales tax on the price of the weapon, even though they are only charging a small transfer fee.

In addition, there is another point on the not too distant horizon. Can't remember the exact date, but I remember hearing about an upcoming regulation that will require everyone to verify the validity of the FFL to whom you send a weapon. It's supposed to work like this. Whether you're an individual or a dealer, you request a signed copy of the FFL from the dealer to whom you want to send a weapon. Then, with FFL in hand, you go on-line or call ATF and verify that the FFL number of the fellow to whom you are sending it is valid, current, up-to-date with regard to address, etc. Somehow you are supposed to keep a record of this. During the ATF audits of the dealers, the auditor is supposed to check randomly somehow on some of those folks who sent weapons to the dealer being audited. Sounds just wonderful, doesn't it?!?! Creates a new class of violation for anyone, private citizens and dealers, sending a weapons withoout proper procedures. Maybe I'm just cynical, but seems the only purpose, beyond making a few more innocent folks into criminals, is to make it more difficult to transfer weapons and thereby reduce the number of transfers. Again, can't remember when all this is supposed to go into effect, maybe already is.
 
The FFL verification is not a proposed regulation (YET!). BATF recently started an FFLezCheck page on their web site where anyone could check the validity of an FFL, including expiration date, and premises address. Right now, it can be a good thing to protect yourself from receiving a fake or altered FFL. BATF recently sent a letter to FFL holders indicating that they were considering making it a requirement to use the system. In order for it to become part of the regulations, a proposed rule will have to be published in the Federal Register and a public comment period allowed. It would not surprise me if this was done in the future.

By the way, collector's licenses (Type 03) are not listed in the ezCheck system.
 
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