Urbanrecon
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If the job, military or civilian, involves driving around in a car all day I'm going for four inch or under.
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Is "compact" becoming the new service gun size?
- Thread starter simonrichter
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My no-name Kydex holster sits at 3-30 on my no beep belt. My Glock 19 is not felt in any way shape or form.
I noticed my Dr's Office has a No Guns notice posted on my last visit? Leave a Pistol in a Jeep? In a not too safe an area? No sir. I transfer to a Safe Packer for physical exams! The holster does not look like anything but a holster!
I suppose most of the readers here are NRA members and read the magazine, the part that recounts Concealed carriers stopping robberies and assaults? Kind of hard to do that with your chunk of plastic and steel left behind aye?
In leaving our favourite Pancake Restaurant a while back, a rotund young Lady entering via the outdoor caused me to be crushed a bit close to an older Gent sitting against the wall, awaiting being seated. (not as old as I) he put his hand up, right on my spare magazine! I said the Gun is on the other side!
He said, "I know!" Ships that pass by. We exchanged smiles.
I noticed my Dr's Office has a No Guns notice posted on my last visit? Leave a Pistol in a Jeep? In a not too safe an area? No sir. I transfer to a Safe Packer for physical exams! The holster does not look like anything but a holster!
I suppose most of the readers here are NRA members and read the magazine, the part that recounts Concealed carriers stopping robberies and assaults? Kind of hard to do that with your chunk of plastic and steel left behind aye?
In leaving our favourite Pancake Restaurant a while back, a rotund young Lady entering via the outdoor caused me to be crushed a bit close to an older Gent sitting against the wall, awaiting being seated. (not as old as I) he put his hand up, right on my spare magazine! I said the Gun is on the other side!
He said, "I know!" Ships that pass by. We exchanged smiles.
wild cat mccane
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It's probably the reality that a gun carrier is at most risk of being shot is by their own gun while holstering? Or other people by accident?
A thought for you.
A thought for you.
Urbanrecon
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Wild cat, you know what they say about statisticians, righr?
Brownstone322
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I recently purchased a SIG AXG and have only shot it once, but the full length grip and 4” barrel has an interesting shooting dynamic that I really like.
That barrel/grip combination ("crossover" or "hybrid") has grown on me too, although it's difficult to articulate why in any objective sense. Remember all the hype telling us that the Glock 19X made no sense? I had always liked my Colt Commander, but the G19X noise really piqued my interest. Turns out I love that thing, even though I can't exactly tell you why. You might agree that the geometry "just feels right."
Plus crossovers work in more than one configuration. I have shot (and didn't particularly like) the Glock 43, but recently I bought a G43X MOS, and I love it too.
My two fave Glocks are now the 19X and 43X, neither of which quite fits the mold of "full size" or "compact" or "subcompact." Go figure.
We purchased our own pistols, and out of the 9 total duty pistols I carried most have been compacts. A compact fits my hands better, and my first thinking when I went to my first one, a Glock 19 gen 2, going from a Glock 17 gen 2, I wanted something I could carry on and off duty.
Since I've retired, my old agency went back to 9mm after having gone .40 in the early to mid '90s. I'm presuming all Glock pistols are still personally owned like during my time, but I don't know if there is a model mandate. The only .40 Glock model we couldn't carry during my time as a duty weapon was a Glock 27 - a little too compact.
A buddy of mine in a local sheriff's office here in the Texas Hill Country tells me that they are issued Glock 19s(unknown gen). The next county over issues SIG P320s, but I don't know which frame. So, not uncommon for compacts to be popular out there in the LE community.
Since I've retired, my old agency went back to 9mm after having gone .40 in the early to mid '90s. I'm presuming all Glock pistols are still personally owned like during my time, but I don't know if there is a model mandate. The only .40 Glock model we couldn't carry during my time as a duty weapon was a Glock 27 - a little too compact.
A buddy of mine in a local sheriff's office here in the Texas Hill Country tells me that they are issued Glock 19s(unknown gen). The next county over issues SIG P320s, but I don't know which frame. So, not uncommon for compacts to be popular out there in the LE community.
Desmosedici
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Interesting, Bamaranger. You'd feel less confident with a P320?My former outfit, the USNPS, went that way, at least partially, almost 20 years ago. SIG was the authorized manufacturer, and everybody got a P228 to start (prior that, it was a mix of 'Smith K and L revolvers). Once the transition had occurred, and the SIGs were universal, there were choices available for both field and trainees. The P229 .40 had hit the scene and it was an option, as well as the P226 in both .40 and 9mm, and the P220 in .45. One could also simply stay with the P228/9mm. Sounds complex, but it came off well. Their were about 1200 or so sworn rangers at the time, nationwide......I think.
About half of the gang, as near as I could tell, went with the P229/.40. Of the remaining half, perhaps one quarter, selected the P220/.45. The remaining 25% kept the P228. These are just estimates, and do not account for the occassional P226/9mm or P226/.40 when it became available, but neither of the latter pair seemed as popular as their mid-size brethren. I was a P220/.45 guy.
All that is in the past. The new issue pistol for all is the modular/poly SIG 320. One more reason to have retired when I did.
"Compact" might be a bit misleading.
I think "mid-sized" might be better, something
between "full" and "compact."
Examples are Colt Commander sized, Beretta'
Centurion, Glock 19.
I think these have always been the best option. I think LE and Military are warming up to them recently because the old guard who believed only in “service sized pistols” are gone.
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It seems to me there were plenty of small service guns in 32acp in Europe, over the last century. Also things like the Makarov were very popular for service.
America seemed to resist this trend to some extent, but with modern advances in materials and design, it seems to me there isn't much of a point in demanding a full sized pistol anymore.
America seemed to resist this trend to some extent, but with modern advances in materials and design, it seems to me there isn't much of a point in demanding a full sized pistol anymore.