Is CCW in NC really worth it?

YES. Of course you should get your CCW. When election time rolls around vote your conscience and maybe we'll get some thing done about the fine print.

I can't remember the last time I went anywhere "naked". I did leave the heat in the car for thanksgiving dinner at my sister's with two small kids and all. Sis gets the willies with guns around the kids so I decided to give it a rest for one day. Other than that I just don't go there. Movies aren't my thing. Don't go to bars cause I'm not 21 anymore. I Stay away from public gatherings because I don't like crowds. I carry at work because I run the place so it's legal. Restaurants are occasionally a bummer but I'm creative and thurough always keep an eye on entrances and possible exits. The "feet don't fail me now' approach has worked wonders in the past and I imagine I can still move it when highly motivated.

The two biggest advantages are a gun permit 24/7 and speeding tickets that turn into warnings. LEO's apparently don't like to spend time chatting with also-armed civilians. They will give your gun back to you in pieces though.
 
RE: mental health- when you apply for a CCH they send a letter to the various mental hospitals in the state to see if you were ever admitted/ patient there. thats the end of that investigation , I believe.
Ares45- please explain /expound on LEO giving you your gun back in pieces?!? Why would you give LEO the gun ? I know one friend who went round and round w/ a LEO (during a traffic stop) about this - my friend was quite adament about not surrendering his weapon. he finally ended up locking it in trunk for duration of LEO's "visit" . I think that was a great idea; there is no mention in law of having to surrender firearm . As my friend pointed out, "possession is 9/10ths of the law" , and he wasn't going to have to hire a lawyer and go through legal process to get his own property back . If anyone else has experience - knowledge of this, I'd like to hear it.....
 
Not following a LEO's commands is a REALLY BAD IDEA. The results of which ,at best, are a black top facial ,and you might find yourself checking the bore on a Glock 22. They protect all of us ,and have a difficult enough job without an armed citizen wanting to debate criminal law and procedure. Your friends story sounds fishy ,and we don't know the LEO's side ,but that is the first time I've ever even heard of an LEO trying to take a CCW holders weapon ,without probable cause. It's also the only time I've ever heard that the citizen on a stop was allowed to do as they pleased ,in spite of the officers request/instructions. Regards 18DAI.
 
The one thing that was made perfectly clear when I took Certification Course at the North Carolina Justice Academy, was the procedure involving contact with a LEO. No grey area. You put your hands on the steering wheel, in plain sight, and LEAVE them there, as you inform the LEO you have a CCH and have a gun in the car. What should I do? Simple answer. YOU DO WHAT HE TELLS YOU TO DO. He has every right to do as he pleases. Yes, he can ask where the weapon is, remove you from the car, remove the weapon from you, cuff you, put you in his car, and run checks on you, your car and the gun.
You should have been over all of this in your CCH class. This subject is on my written test concerning CCH issues. I tell my students there are several questions that must be answered correctly, and this is one of them.

I have been through numerous road blocks on the roads of NC when I was a salesman. Not once was I eve hastled. The normal reply is thanks for telling me, and what are you carrying?

Common sense prevails when your dealing with an LEO. They are in a super stressful job. The pay is poor. They know you have a gun. Most have no idea the training you went through to get the CCH. They catch grief from most of the people they have to deal with.

Which makes more sense? Do what the law tell you to do during a stop, being as polite as can be while following the LEOS instructions, or cop an attitude.
You WILL NOT win this arguement.
I hate you had sucha bad experience. Think about this.I wonder how the LEO will handle the next encounter with a CCH holder after the encounter he just had with you? I hope I'm not the next one down the line.

Thanks
Gene
 
arrington's treats me like beetle dung b/c i'm not leo. i wouldn't give them a dime. southern firearms is o.k. and their police trade in's are good. the two best for price in the triad are gun rack and whetstone supply in high point. the guy at whetstone has no inventory, but will special order anything for cost + maybe 10%. the gun show on the 28th will be big! i will trade my beretta .40 for something sweet before 9:30 a.m.!! count on that. calibers is where i shoot as well.
 
I don't understand giving attitude to a LEO. Doesn't seem smart no matter whether the guy is a good or a bad cop. If he's a good cop, why crap on him? If he's a bad cop, why give him a reason, however flimsy, to bust your stones? I've never been in such a situation, but I'm guessing that most of the time there are only two witnesses: you and him. I suspect the judge will believe him over you.

If he takes your gun for *no reason* and won't give it back--which seems pretty unlikely--find a lawyer and go after the department. I doubt the department will stick up for the guy. I've known cops who have made good arrests, been sued, and their department settles out of court just to avoid the hassle and bad press. Returning your gun is much smaller than that.

Besides, if some screwball LEO is trying to bust your stones for no reason, remaining imperturbable is the best way to get even. It puts you at the least risk and takes away the two things he's wanting most: a reason to hassle you and the joy of getting your goat.
 
Please understand, it wasn't me giving the LEO a hard time. I do remember that this happened right after CCH was started, and everyone was still gettting a " comfort level ". I remember my jaw hanging open while listening to my friend tell this story- but I could see the guy doing it. Thats just the type person he was (He was also well connected politically; I think that 'helped' his attitude).
I have been through routine license checks twice since CCH - both times LEO smiled and waved me through. I think it helps to have it.
 
And they're open Tuesday - Saturday. Close At six weekdays, 2pm on Saturdays. They open at either 9 or 10am. Where on Hwy 68 is Greensboro Gun Works?
 
GSO gun works is just north of the airport on east side of road- IIRC, rt by a convenience store (I don't get that way too often - been couple years). It's very easy to miss, and unless he's changed the storefront you won't notice it if you aren't looking for it. I have a feeling thats how he wants it. For someone out of the way who doesn't advertise he has been mentioned to me an amazing amt of times.
 
honestly i dont see why people stress about going to dry restaurants. the whole point of CCW is to conceal your weapon. :eek: if you're not carrying a 5 pound gun you should be able to eat your food in peace without anyone knowing you have a gun. I'll carry my gun anywhere because the reason i have a gun may happen anywhere.
 
When I lived in NC, I thought it was worth it. I don't frequent places where alcohol is served because generally I do my drinking at home.

I do like beer with my pizza, but I rarely crave pizza anymore.

I suppose that IF I had, on occasion, gone with friends who wanted to eat at a restaurant that served alcohol, such as a steak house, I COULD have done so without any problems IF my friends had not noticed I was carrying before we went, because that would have meant my concealment was good.

Of course, that's ALL hypothetical, and I would never make such a recommendation.

However, I also believe, as others have said, that the more people who have permits, the more the crime rate drops, and the more used to the idea people get to allowing concealed carry in more places. It also gives gun-friendly politicians useful numbers for when they advance good gun laws.
 
as i sit here waiting for my CCW (march 29th was my appointment) to arrive in the mail, i have to vote YES it's worth it.

i travel quite a bit, and my indiana permit is no longer valid (because i'm now a NC resident). without a valid permit, i could not carry in alot of places between here and indianapolis
 
Yes.
1. Better to carry where ever it is legal than not at all.
2. Show the politicians, and statisticians that you are exercising your right to carry as prescribed by the law. The more law abiding citizens that have CCW permits, the less likely anti-gun politicians are to say the law is unnecessary.
3. 31 other states will honor your NC permit.
 
Gene - Recently applied for my CCW in Catawba. I was told by the nice lady in the office to expect 4 - 6 weeks. It's only been 3 weeks so I'll know within a month if that's the case.

Hickory seems to be dead in the water for Handguns, Reloading, and even Ammunition. I can't find ANYTHING in this town. Charlotte and Greensboro trips are getting way to frequent...

Anyplace local that I'm just... "missing?"

EDIT - Oh, and the BIGGEST reason for me to get my CCW... I travel to Michigan up I77 and through Ohio at least 2 or 3 times a year to visit family. Ohio has some crazy carry laws in your vehicle. A loaded magazine constitutes a "loaded" firearm, and they are illegal to have in your vehicle. The weapon and ammunition have to be completely separate. So only with your CCW can you get around that. And honestly I don't imagine it being very fun driving down the road, crossing the state line, and trying to flip the rounds out of a magazine... Or worse leaving the state and trying to fill that magazine back up. =p
 
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